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Originally posted by Smokin'
Man, you're still thinking in your little Mayweather box. You're a credible boxer, but you gotta get some diversity in the fighter's you watch. It is true in the amateurs that the best 'boxers' win, but in the pro game this is way ****ing different. You cannot win on just size/speed alone.
Ok, let me make this simple for you. Zab RAN from 140 lbs to get away from Kosta Tszyu and Floyd Mayweather. It's that simple. He had no competition at 147 so he was able to get all of the belts there and get a leg up on Floyd on the negotiations table. Only problem was, Baldomir foiled Zab's plan on making the biggest payday of his career. Same thing with Sharmba. Mayweather fought a very credible, formidable opponent in Sharmba but he's a career 140 lber. He's not even fighting naturals. He's just conning dumb ****s like yourself.
And yeah, I never really looked into the Oscar - Mayorga fight. I didn't really care for the matchup and I knew Oscar was gong to outclass Mayorga. I wasn't overly impressed with Oscar at 154 there, he seemed out of shape and he was fighting just a terrble one-trick pony in Mayorga. I do know Floyd is a different machine, but give Oscar a little bit of credit here. He's an olympic gold medalist, a 6 weight world champ, I think he would figure Floyd out pretty damn easily.
And I will bet my 2 balls that Mayweather will never beat Taylor. Taylor is uncoordinated, but the guy is an athletic freak. He's not your regular 160 lber. He's a weight-drained super middleweight who has the potential probably to win titles at 168, 175. He is a decent boxer, but he is an athletic monster. Floyd wouldn't even touch Taylor.
And Winky is small himself, I think that's why you're giving Floyd the benefit of the doubt. Floyd never once had the intention of fighting Winky. I remember a while back I had SOLID proof that Floyd blatantly ducked Winky. Basically, Winky took a deal and Floyd pulled a Roy Jones and wanted more money and a bigger split in his favour.
Ok, let me make this simple for you. Zab RAN from 140 lbs to get away from Kosta Tszyu and Floyd Mayweather. It's that simple. He had no competition at 147 so he was able to get all of the belts there and get a leg up on Floyd on the negotiations table. Only problem was, Baldomir foiled Zab's plan on making the biggest payday of his career. Same thing with Sharmba. Mayweather fought a very credible, formidable opponent in Sharmba but he's a career 140 lber. He's not even fighting naturals. He's just conning dumb ****s like yourself.
And yeah, I never really looked into the Oscar - Mayorga fight. I didn't really care for the matchup and I knew Oscar was gong to outclass Mayorga. I wasn't overly impressed with Oscar at 154 there, he seemed out of shape and he was fighting just a terrble one-trick pony in Mayorga. I do know Floyd is a different machine, but give Oscar a little bit of credit here. He's an olympic gold medalist, a 6 weight world champ, I think he would figure Floyd out pretty damn easily.
And I will bet my 2 balls that Mayweather will never beat Taylor. Taylor is uncoordinated, but the guy is an athletic freak. He's not your regular 160 lber. He's a weight-drained super middleweight who has the potential probably to win titles at 168, 175. He is a decent boxer, but he is an athletic monster. Floyd wouldn't even touch Taylor.
And Winky is small himself, I think that's why you're giving Floyd the benefit of the doubt. Floyd never once had the intention of fighting Winky. I remember a while back I had SOLID proof that Floyd blatantly ducked Winky. Basically, Winky took a deal and Floyd pulled a Roy Jones and wanted more money and a bigger split in his favour.
2nd, you are wrong about Zab. You can say what you want about him but to say he ran from Tszyu and Floyd is ******. Zab has been trying to get a Tszyu fight ever since he lost and a Floyd fight was never even possible until recently because they were best friends and always said that wouldnt fight eachother. Also Spinks is better then you think and you need to give him more credit for that win. Spinks would beat Margartio.
Let me explain this thing to you again since you seem slow. Zab was universally recognized as the Champ at 147 when he beat Spinks. He was the guy. Floyd wanted to move up and fight the Champ but it was a new weight and he wanted a tuneup because of the weight and because Zab was a slick Southpaw. Whos the perfect opponent for that? Mithcell. He wouldve never even fought Mitchell if Zab wasnt the Champ.
As far as Taylor goes, I never said Floyd would win. I just say that its not unreasonable when you look at there styles, even with the weight advantage. Its not like Floyd is a brawler. Floyd wont be right in Taylor's face where he could just stand there and get punished. It wouldnt be as easy for Taylor as you think. You have to also remember one thing about the weight. Weight is a huge advantage but were also not talking about a regular guy. We are talking about the #1 fighter in the world, so if anyone could do it then it would be him and he knows the art of not getting hit flush.
How is Winky small? Dude has been at 154 his whole career and when he went up to 160 he looked bigger then Tito and looks basically like a natural Middleweight. Also that Winky vs Floyd stuff you talking is false. How do you prove anything by saying that Floyd tried to pull a RJ and take more money? I agreed with Floyd. Floyd was coming from 140 to fight the 1st or 2nd pound for pound best fighter in the sport all the way at 154 after Winky just killed Tito at 160 and you think Floyd is going to do that for a 50/50 split? He would be insane to do that. No one in the world would take that risk and Winky is dumb for asking for that price.
Winky tried to play it off by saying that he is the one taking the risk by fighting a smaller man and has nothing to gain? How does that make sense? If you are fighting a smaller man that you think you would easily beat then you should take less money. If Floyd wanted to fight Tarver right now, do you think Tarver would say "give me 50/50 because Im taking the risk"? How ****** is that. Floyd was the one taking the crazy risk and he was right to want 55-45 or 60-40. Its not like Winky had a big name like Oscar.
Now if Winky and Floyd win then Winky cant use that excuse because Floyd will be the same weight that Winky has been his whole career and he wouldve just come off 3 big PPV's with Gatti, Zab, and Oscar. He cant say that he deserves 50/50 because of the weight. Would you think he deserves 50/50 then? That fight wont do super huge numbers so I know Floyd definatly wont do it this time for 50/50 after he has more barganing chips and Winky tried to play him last time. After those 2 fights then Winky would need a Floyd fight way more then the other way around. Floyd would have a ton of big money offers out there.
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