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  • Smokin'
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    #11
    Floyd beats weight-drained Oscar at 147, but Oscar beats Floyd at 154.

    And, yeah, DLT thanks for contributing one of the funniest posts I've seen in a long time. If you think itty bitty little 5'6'' Floyd has any chance against a 6'1'' genetic freak in Taylor, then you truly are delusional. Stop watching Spinks/Malignaggi/Mayweather bouts and pay attention to some other fighters. Maybe your opinion will change.

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    • machotime
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      #12
      pbf has yet to fight a true welter, Middle is two divisions higher, I don't see it happening.

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        #13
        Originally posted by DLT
        Yeah but Taylor aint no Hagler eithere. Judging by the way you talk, you think Floyd would get killed by Oscar but you are dead wrong if you think that
        Like I said, itty little bitty Floyd has no chance at 154 if he fights any of the top guys. I'm not talking about former 140/147 lbers who have moved up to 154, but real, natural 154 lbers.

        Let me guess, you were the same guy who thought Floyd was actually going to fight Winky, and he was going to win, right?

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        • deliveryman
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          #14
          Floyd isn't 5'6, he's 5'8, and has pretty damn long arms for someone who's 5'8.

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          • Smokin'
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            #15
            He's 5'8'' on a good day. Most of the fighters today add a couple inches to there actual fight. I personally think he's i nthe 5'6' 5'7'' range especially when I saw him fight itty bitty Sharmba.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Smokin'
              Like I said, itty little bitty Floyd has no chance at 154 if he fights any of the top guys. I'm not talking about former 140/147 lbers who have moved up to 154, but real, natural 154 lbers.

              Let me guess, you were the same guy who thought Floyd was actually going to fight Winky, and he was going to win, right?
              Well, when Floyd fights Oscar then we will put some money on it because he easily beats Oscar even at 154. Also you seem to think the Winky fight is a joke but once Floyd beats Oscar then no one will be thinking that fight is a joke anymore. BTW Floyd is 5'8.

              You guys keep saying he hasnt faced a real welterweight but Zab was just recognized as the champ at 147. When you guys say that Floyd hasnt beaten a real welter, your really just saying he hasnt beaten the overrated Margarito because I know that none of you think anyone else at 147 can beat him.

              Floyd is a very small dude but his skills allow him to fight higher then he should. Im a Taylor fan but he looks pathetic alot of times and shouldve looked much better against Hopkins. He is still extremely uncordinated and if Floyd beats Oscar as easy as I think he will then I bet you will read a few articles of writers wondering about that fight "if" Taylor beats Winky.

              Floyd is not Mayorga. That fight would be totally different and thats why Oscar hasnt jumped on it yet

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                #17
                Originally posted by Smokin'
                He's 5'8'' on a good day. Most of the fighters today add a couple inches to there actual fight. I personally think he's i nthe 5'6' 5'7'' range especially when I saw him fight itty bitty Sharmba.
                You better go watch him at 130 then because you could tell then he was taller then most of the guys he fought. Also I hope you dont think guys like Mosley or Vargas would beat him at 154 because that would be so funny

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Smokin'
                  He's 5'8'' on a good day. Most of the fighters today add a couple inches to there actual fight. I personally think he's i nthe 5'6' 5'7'' range especially when I saw him fight itty bitty Sharmba.
                  Right, because you can tell the difference between 2 inches on TV, from people who are constantly bobbing their heads and bouncing around

                  And to reitterate my point of Mayweather having very long arms for someone who is 5'8, his arm length is 26 inches, compared to taylors who is 27 inches...

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DLT
                    Well, when Floyd fights Oscar then we will put some money on it because he easily beats Oscar even at 154. Also you seem to think the Winky fight is a joke but once Floyd beats Oscar then no one will be thinking that fight is a joke anymore. BTW Floyd is 5'8.

                    You guys keep saying he hasnt faced a real welterweight but Zab was just recognized as the champ at 147. When you guys say that Floyd hasnt beaten a real welter, your really just saying he hasnt beaten the overrated Margarito because I know that none of you think anyone else at 147 can beat him.

                    Floyd is a very small dude but his skills allow him to fight higher then he should. Im a Taylor fan but he looks pathetic alot of times and shouldve looked much better against Hopkins. He is still extremely uncordinated and if Floyd beats Oscar as easy as I think he will then I bet you will read a few articles of writers wondering about that fight "if" Taylor beats Winky.

                    Floyd is not Mayorga. That fight would be totally different and thats why Oscar hasnt jumped on it yet
                    Man, you're still thinking in your little Mayweather box. You're a credible boxer, but you gotta get some diversity in the fighter's you watch. It is true in the amateurs that the best 'boxers' win, but in the pro game this is way ****ing different. You cannot win on just size/speed alone.

                    Ok, let me make this simple for you. Zab RAN from 140 lbs to get away from Kosta Tszyu and Floyd Mayweather. It's that simple. He had no competition at 147 so he was able to get all of the belts there and get a leg up on Floyd on the negotiations table. Only problem was, Baldomir foiled Zab's plan on making the biggest payday of his career. Same thing with Sharmba. Mayweather fought a very credible, formidable opponent in Sharmba but he's a career 140 lber. He's not even fighting naturals. He's just conning dumb ****s like yourself.

                    And yeah, I never really looked into the Oscar - Mayorga fight. I didn't really care for the matchup and I knew Oscar was gong to outclass Mayorga. I wasn't overly impressed with Oscar at 154 there, he seemed out of shape and he was fighting just a terrble one-trick pony in Mayorga. I do know Floyd is a different machine, but give Oscar a little bit of credit here. He's an olympic gold medalist, a 6 weight world champ, I think he would figure Floyd out pretty damn easily.

                    And I will bet my 2 balls that Mayweather will never beat Taylor. Taylor is uncoordinated, but the guy is an athletic freak. He's not your regular 160 lber. He's a weight-drained super middleweight who has the potential probably to win titles at 168, 175. He is a decent boxer, but he is an athletic monster. Floyd wouldn't even touch Taylor.

                    And Winky is small himself, I think that's why you're giving Floyd the benefit of the doubt. Floyd never once had the intention of fighting Winky. I remember a while back I had SOLID proof that Floyd blatantly ducked Winky. Basically, Winky took a deal and Floyd pulled a Roy Jones and wanted more money and a bigger split in his favour.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DLT
                      You better go watch him at 130 then because you could tell then he was taller then most of the guys he fought. Also I hope you dont think guys like Mosley or Vargas would beat him at 154 because that would be so funny
                      Mosley's a tough cookie now, but he wouldn't beat Mayweather. He would of beat Mayweather 3 years ago though. Prime for prime.

                      Vargas is like 175 lbs come fight time. I would easily give him a shot at 154. Vargas can box himself and he's only really been in trouble against punchers. I don't see the shoulder roll working on any tough 154 lbers either, BY THE WAY.
                      Last edited by Smokin'; 06-03-2006, 02:59 AM.

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