Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Mayweather-McGregor, Mosley, Ward

[harry-greb]

you know something.....

if my guy could not beat Marquez..... and if my guy lost to the best version of Morales that he faced..... I would be too embarrassed to run around desperately pleading that the world should award him an imaginary "I love you Manny" title

Morales was better at 122/126 than super-featherweight

have some pride, Pac doesn't even know you exist

just saying.....

There is the pivot I was expecting. Now its best version stuff since morales went 1-2 with pacquiao with two stoppages and if I recall the first fight was close with all 3 judges scoring it 115-113. No judges needed in second and third fights!!!
Its not my guy vs your guy. I've always admired Marquez and morales. I've said it here before.
If Marquez had beaten pacquiao he would rightly have been called lineal featherweight champion. No sanctioning fees, no lobbying. Same goes for morales.
I don't decide who is lineal champion . I don't award anything.
History, tradition, 100 years does.
Haven't u decided pacquiao is a 6 weight "world champion"!!! Who is throwing jelly beans around????!!!!!
And by the way, what is the problem with the rankings I posted previously. Even after posting them u say Marquez was ranked higher than Barrera. The reason he was ranked higher than Barrera at the end of 2003 is because Barrera had lost his lineal title to pacquiao a month earlier. So because of that, Barrera slips to no. 2/in the rankings. In the previous 3 rankings I posted Barrera was ranked higher than Marquez as he was champion.
They are not my rankings. I had to go into my magazine archive to find them. If u don't acknowledge those rankings there is no point in debating.
Also your top 5 featherweight rankings are not ACTUAL rankings. They are your opinion. I've no problem with that. I don't agree with them but you're entitled to our opinion. But don't mix up actual printed rankings with opinions.

Sort out your typo. If pacquiao had fought morales in 2011/2012/2013 he would have murdered him!!

[harry-greb]

FACT: Hamed ducked Marquez like he had the plague

FACT: Marquez beat Barrera


I truly believe that this video will make you cry.....

Duck schmuck, Marquez beat nobody during hamed's reign,he was unknown. Hamed was fighting the top dogs at featherweight.

Marquez was losing to Freddie norwood

Marquez did not beat Barrera

Max, " I BELIEVE" Marquez was the best featherweight of the era".
That's max's opinion. And what is all this nonsense about 72 rounds scored by the judges. He's not taking into account that pacquiao floored marquez 3 times in the first round in the first fight which shudda been scored 10-6 instead of 10-7 giving pacquiao the win. Also plenty of other refs would have stopped that fight in the first round.
He also floored him in the second fight.
So max can "believe" all he wants but the fact remains that Marquez does not have one top level win at featherweight on his record. NOT ONE!!!!!
So how the **** cud he be the best featherweight of the era??????

You put all your eggs in kellermans basket and u came up short.

"BELIEVE"

No tears here son!!!

[aboutfkntime]

When cold hard facts(rankings) are staring u in the face and u refuse to accept them, there is nothing else to say.

facts beat wankings

FACT: Pacquiao did not win a title off Barrera
FACT: Pacquiao did not beat Marquez

and then, there is that little issue of Eric Morales

There is the pivot I was expecting. Now its best version stuff since morales went 1-2 with pacquiao with two stoppages and if I recall the first fight was close with all 3 judges scoring it 115-113. No judges needed in second and third fights!!!
Its not my guy vs your guy. I've always admired Marquez and morales. I've said it here before.
If Marquez had beaten pacquiao he would rightly have been called lineal featherweight champion. No sanctioning fees, no lobbying. Same goes for morales.
I don't decide who is lineal champion . I don't award anything.
History, tradition, 100 years does.
Haven't u decided pacquiao is a 6 weight "world champion"!!! Who is throwing jelly beans around????!!!!!
And by the way, what is the problem with the rankings I posted previously. Even after posting them u say Marquez was ranked higher than Barrera. The reason he was ranked higher than Barrera at the end of 2003 is because Barrera had lost his lineal title to pacquiao a month earlier. So because of that, Barrera slips to no. 2/in the rankings. In the previous 3 rankings I posted Barrera was ranked higher than Marquez as he was champion.
They are not my rankings. I had to go into my magazine archive to find them. If u don't acknowledge those rankings there is no point in debating.
Also your top 5 featherweight rankings are not ACTUAL rankings. They are your opinion. I've no problem with that. I don't agree with them but you're entitled to our opinion. But don't mix up actual printed rankings with opinions.

Sort out your typo. If pacquiao had fought morales in 2011/2012/2013 he would have murdered him!!

FACT: Pacquiao did not win a title off Barrera
FACT: Pacquiao did not beat Marquez

also, the best version of Morales that Pac fought, spanked him

the extra weight did not help Manny when they fought at 130, and Morales was a better fighter at 122/126

and yet, you are handing around world titles like jellybeans

shameful

Duck schmuck, Marquez beat nobody during hamed's reign,he was unknown. Hamed was fighting the top dogs at featherweight.

Marquez was losing to Freddie norwood

Marquez did not beat Barrera

Max, " I BELIEVE" Marquez was the best featherweight of the era".
That's max's opinion. And what is all this nonsense about 72 rounds scored by the judges. He's not taking into account that pacquiao floored marquez 3 times in the first round in the first fight which shudda been scored 10-6 instead of 10-7 giving pacquiao the win. Also plenty of other refs would have stopped that fight in the first round.
He also floored him in the second fight.
So max can "believe" all he wants but the fact remains that Marquez does not have one top level win at featherweight on his record. NOT ONE!!!!!
So how the **** cud he be the best featherweight of the era??????

You put all your eggs in kellermans basket and u came up short.

"BELIEVE"

No tears here son!!!

Max > you

like a typical casual-fan, you just burned an opportunity to learn something

[aboutfkntime]

being a 6-div champ is still ok

that is right up there with Hoya

Pac does not have the names that Hoya does, but that is still ok

[aboutfkntime]

Featherweight - 126 lbs

1) Marquez
2) Morales
3) Pacquiao
4) Barrera
5) Hamed

[harry-greb]

being a 6-div champ is still ok

that is right up there with Hoya

Pac does not have the names that Hoya does, but that is still ok

oh jesus christ, please don't favourably compare de la hoya to pacquiao!!!!!!!!

[harry-greb]

Featherweight - 126 lbs

1) Marquez
2) Morales
3) Pacquiao
4) Barrera
5) Hamed

opinions opinions opinions

and i would blow those "rankings" apart with cold hard, thats right, u guessed it FACTS

[harry-greb]

facts beat wankings

FACT: Pacquiao did not win a title off Barrera
FACT: Pacquiao did not beat Marquez

and then, there is that little issue of Eric Morales





FACT: Pacquiao did not win a title off Barrera
FACT: Pacquiao did not beat Marquez

also, the best version of Morales that Pac fought, spanked him

the extra weight did not help Manny when they fought at 130, and Morales was a better fighter at 122/126

and yet, you are handing around world titles like jellybeans

shameful





Max > you

like a typical casual-fan, you just burned an opportunity to learn something

but wankings are ok when they show marquez ranked ahead of barrera in dec. 2003 flippity flop flop

FACT pacquiao won the lineal title from barrera and your GOD max would agree with me

FACT marquez did not beat pacquiao so how was marquez THE MAN at featherweight and don't show those rankings because i showed the unedited version with pacquiao as champ and marquez as no.1 contender

morales is a non issue because they were never at featherweight at the same. i'm i Bill Murray in groundhog day???

u might want to re watch that first pacquiao-morales fight. 115-113 on scorecards. then u might want to get your trusted pocket dictionary and look up the word spanking. you'll be enlightened!!

the extra weight didn't bother manny when he drilled morales in the 2nd and 3rd fights.

i get it, u like jellybeans.
let me think, who has a propensity to hand out world titles like jellybeans????
bing
harry-greb: aboutfkntime, do u have the answer??
aboutfkntime: is it the alphabet gang??
harry-greb: thats right, aboutfkntime. you win a max kellerman poster where u can pray every night before u go to bed!!!

casual fans don't have a clue about lineage. don't talk gibberish.

kellerman is giving his opinion
he has no facts to back it up.marquez beat no great fighter at featherweight. a quick look at boxrec wud consign his opinion to the dustbin

[aboutfkntime]

but wankings are ok when they show marquez ranked ahead of barrera in dec. 2003 flippity flop flop

FACT pacquiao won the lineal title from barrera and your GOD max would agree with me

FACT marquez did not beat pacquiao so how was marquez THE MAN at featherweight and don't show those rankings because i showed the unedited version with pacquiao as champ and marquez as no.1 contender

morales is a non issue because they were never at featherweight at the same. i'm i Bill Murray in groundhog day???

u might want to re watch that first pacquiao-morales fight. 115-113 on scorecards. then u might want to get your trusted pocket dictionary and look up the word spanking. you'll be enlightened!!

the extra weight didn't bother manny when he drilled morales in the 2nd and 3rd fights.

i get it, u like jellybeans.
let me think, who has a propensity to hand out world titles like jellybeans????
bing
harry-greb: aboutfkntime, do u have the answer??
aboutfkntime: is it the alphabet gang??
harry-greb: thats right, aboutfkntime. you win a max kellerman poster where u can pray every night before u go to bed!!!

casual fans don't have a clue about lineage. don't talk gibberish.

kellerman is giving his opinion
he has no facts to back it up.marquez beat no great fighter at featherweight. a quick look at boxrec wud consign his opinion to the dustbin

Marquez beat Barrera, you tool

the benefit of hindsight is a wonderful thing

using the benefit of hindsight we know that.....

Featherweight - 126 lbs
1) Marquez
2) Morales
3) Pacquiao
4) Barrera
5) Hamed

so handing out world titles to anyone other than Marquez is just fanboy ******ity..... and Marquez does not need you to award him a "I love you Juan" title..... because he won his title in the ring

FACT marquez did not beat pacquiao so how was marquez THE MAN at featherweight

Marquez was the champion, Pacquiao was not

Marquez retained his title. Pacquiao did not have one

I bet that burns

[harry-greb]

Marquez beat Barrera, you tool

the benefit of hindsight is a wonderful thing

using the benefit of hindsight we know that.....

Featherweight - 126 lbs
1) Marquez
2) Morales
3) Pacquiao
4) Barrera
5) Hamed

so handing out world titles to anyone other than Marquez is just fanboy ******ity..... and Marquez does not need you to award him a "I love you Juan" title..... because he won his title in the ring





Marquez was the champion, Pacquiao was not

Marquez retained his title. Pacquiao did not have one

I bet that burns

How exactly was Marquez champion??? Who did he beat???
Show me the fighters he beat!!!!!!
I'll have some more popcorn ready!!

Marquez did not beat Barrera at featherweight.

How the **** can u rank Marquez no.1 at featherweight when he beat none of the other fighters on your list. Utter nonsense.

Morales no.2 beat nobody on the list either. And we're talking featherweight.

Pacquiao no.3 has a win against Barrera (in his first fight at the weight) and a draw in his second fight at featherweight against Marquez ( a carer featherweight up to that point)

Barrera no.4 despite the fact he has wins against hamed (in his first fight at the weight) and morales AT FEATHERWEIGHT.

Hamed no.5 when he dominated the division for 5 years fighting a who's who.

You cannot take into account what they did above or below featherweight and then rank them accordingly.
U can only take into account what they did at FEATHERWEIGHT.

Your list is really a favourite fighter list