Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Mayweather-McGregor, Mosley, Ward
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I'm about to smoke your first "fact".
The Ring/playboy rankings u are using are for the end of 2003.
They are on boxrec. I'm looking at them as I type. What u have constantly neglected to show is that above Juan Manuel Marquez in the rankings is a certain Emmanuel Pacquiao with a C beside his name. C is for champion. The reason Barrera is below Marquez is because Barrera has been dethroned by pacquiao and ipso facto (its Latin) Marquez becomes no.1 ranked contender for pacquiao's lineal title.
You've constantly called Marquez " the man" in your posts. If u challenge the fact that pacquiao was not lineal champion because "he did not beat Marquez at featherweight" how can u call Marquez "the man" when he did not beat pacquiao at featherweight!!!!!!!
kid, back up the truck.....
FACT: Pac did not win a title by beating Barrera
you tried to award him an imaginary title for winning that fight
but.....
Marquez was ranked higher than Barrera LOOOOOL
what don't you get..... ?Comment
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When a man is losing a debate he changes the subject. We were debating featherweight. What have cotto and margarito have to do with featherweight???
I'll indulge u anyway
1. Whose rankings??? The alphabet gods that u are a slave to. If u took those wbc jmw rankings seriously then that's on you. Bull**** meaningless rankings
2. Legitimize what?? An alphabet belt. Don't make me laugh. Pacquiao is really a lightweight. Did u want him to get killed fighting real junior middleweights?? It was purely a belt grab against a drained slow margarito who still hurt pacquiao.
3. Ignore the alphabets. They are the cancer of boxing.
4. You'll get no arguments from me. Look at what he did to cotto.
5. Ive already said I despise catch weights but they've been around in some form or other since Jesus was a lad.
Did i just agree with most of your post??? **** me
nobody mentioned Cotto
I pointed out that Manny's " title " at 154..... is nearly as fake as his " title " at 126
but, winning titles in 6-div's is still pretty good bro
right up there with De La HoyaComment
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The phaggot only stated after weighing in over the contract weight he couldn't make weight. It wasn't like he informed Marquez in advance of the weigh in that he wasn't going to make weight. He was over the limit then refused to try and lose the weight extra weight. When a fighter comes in over weight they are given an extra hour or two to lose that weight, but Floyd refused to try and make weight.
It was a b1tch move and a pu$$y, especially to a fighter who was coming up two weight classes.
You fanboys are so delusional about Floyd that Floyd can **** a kid or ****** his children and you phaggots will still make you excuses and try and make what he did into something corrrect.Comment
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Who said he came in at 160? Wtf you talking about b1tch ass phaggot fanboy. Floyd signed the contract to be at a certain weight which he ended up ***ing over Marquez.
The phaggot only stated after weighing in over the contract weight he couldn't make weight. It wasn't like he informed Marquez in advance of the weigh in that he wasn't going to make weight. He was over the limit then refused to try and lose the weight extra weight. When a fighter comes in over weight they are given an extra hour or two to lose that weight, but Floyd refused to try and make weight.
It was a b1tch move and a pu$$y, especially to a fighter who was coming up two weight classes.
You fanboys are so delusional about Floyd that Floyd can **** a kid or ****** his children and you phaggots will still make you excuses and try and make what he did into something corrrect.
that is absolute rubbish
they renegotiated the contract 2 weeks prior to the fight
the (newly) contracted weight for that fight was 146
nobody missed weight, nobody was required to re-weigh
the penalty for missing weight would have been 500k per pound, 1mil..... which would have gone to the commission
by renegotiating the contract Mayweather paid 300k per pound..... the 600k went to Marquez, and the commission got nothing..... saving Mayweather 400k
that was lame as hell, but nobody missed weight
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which, means nothing
FACT: a lineal champ is a casual-fan attempt to manufacture a real champ
who cares what Barrera did 3 years earlier..... you are attempting to call him the man in 2003, but Marquez was
just like Golovkin is the man, NOT Canelo
just like Ward is the man, NOT Stevenson
stop talking shht, and stop handing around world titles
ranking by lineage is for ignorant casual fans
you fkn did so, STOP LYING !!
and for god's sake stop trying to use Baldomir as an example
Baldomir is a perfect example proving that ranking by lineage is ******ity
Show me evidence that Marquez was the man at that time. Real evidence, not that edited ring/playboy rankings list. I exposed u on that one.
Who did he beat from 2000 to 2003 to prove he was "the man"?
I'll have my popcorn ready!!!!Comment
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FACT: it is impossible to award Pacquiao an imaginary "I love you Manny" title because.....
1) he did not win a title from Barrera
2) he did not beat Marquez
3) he did not beat Morales at featherweight in 2001/2002/2003, and Pac lost to Morales when they fought at 130
kid.....
you cannot conveniently forget about Morales in 2001/2002/2003..... but then wank on about Barrera beating Hamed back in 2001
One pope, one president, one featherweight champion
2. It was a draw so he keeps the lineal title
3. Jesus Christ. How could he beat morales at featherweight. THEY WERE NEVER AT FEATHERWEIGHT AT THE SAME TIME!!!!!!! And by the way, pacquiao smoked morales in their second and third fights at 130!!!
Barrera beat morales on 22nd June 2002.
That's hamed and morales in the win column for Barrera in 2001 and 2002.
Who has Marquez got???????????
Check and mate
Get me the ring rankings websiteComment
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Its very hard to get through to u. The rankings in which u base your Marquez was ahead of Barrera argument is for the year end 2003. Now read that sentence out loud to yourself so it sinks in.
Pacquiao dethroned Barrera in November 2003. Therefore pacquiao becomes the champion. The rankings u refer to were drawn up AFTER pacquiao beats Barrera so of course Barrera slips down to number 2 in the rankings. he's just been beaten by pacquiao. Marquez is therefore no. 1 ranked CONTENDER as the rankings rightly show, with pacquiao above him as champion.
indisputable facts my son, indisputable facts.
post the unedited rankings, if u dare!!Comment
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Pac still gets credit for beating Barrera..... and winning titles in 7 divisions is not bad
oh, right..... Margarito
well, winning titles in 6 divisions is not bad
oh, right..... Cotto at catchweight SMH
See that, I can copy and paste too.
Are u seriously comparing Manny's belt at 154 to him winning the lineal featherweight title??????
U truly are a lost cause!!!.
Show me the unedited ring featherweight rankings for year end 2003,Comment
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Who said he came in at 160? Wtf you talking about b1tch ass phaggot fanboy. Floyd signed the contract to be at a certain weight which he ended up ***ing over Marquez.
The phaggot only stated after weighing in over the contract weight he couldn't make weight. It wasn't like he informed Marquez in advance of the weigh in that he wasn't going to make weight. He was over the limit then refused to try and lose the weight extra weight. When a fighter comes in over weight they are given an extra hour or two to lose that weight, but Floyd refused to try and make weight.
It was a b1tch move and a pu$$y, especially to a fighter who was coming up two weight classes.
You fanboys are so delusional about Floyd that Floyd can **** a kid or ****** his children and you phaggots will still make you excuses and try and make what he did into something corrrect.
Second Floyd called JMM's people a week before the fight and let him know that he won't make 144. The contract was restructured where Floyd couldn't come in over 147 and Floyd came in at 146. And your **** and ******ation comment should get your sorry, worthless ass banned you piece of ****. Sorry bastard.Comment
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