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  • #41
    Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
    Canelo is great at defending/slipping jabs not ok, not just good, he's great at it I already posted defensive highlights including him taking fighters jabs away but here are the actual numbers. I'll just repost




    and last fight

    Chavez vs Canelo
    118 Total jabs Thrown
    15 Total jabs connected
    12.7% Percentage landed
    Triple g has a better jab then all of them.

    he was able to do whatever he wanted against small past prime fighters, don't expect him to duplicate the same things vs triple g.

    If canelo tries to be cute with that over exaggerating head movement he is getting slumped.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by ScottWeiland View Post
      I think you're going to be wrong personally Ray, I really haven't seen a side of Canelo Golovkin has anything to be fearful of, in not sure on what basis people believe he will beat him, I've seen Golovkin hit more than he should be, but we've also seen him box perfectly against Lemieux, extremely mindful of the danger Lemieux presents, what are the dangers Canelo brings ?
      I don't think GGG or any boxer have any sort of fear to be honest, I just see Canelo outboxing GGG, without GGG having too much say in it. We shall see how this goes next month, it's an exciting fight which am really looking forward to. I originally never gave Canelo any chance, but now I see he has tightened up some of the little things, that you see in boxers that you shouldn't be seeing.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by BTL View Post
        Triple g has a better jab then all of them.

        he was able to do whatever he wanted against small past prime fighters, don't expect him to duplicate the same things vs triple g.

        If canelo tries to be cute with that over exaggerating head movement he is getting slumped.
        Lara, Cotto, Khan are all excellent jabbers and the numbers speak for themselves for their careers landing that shot yet all struggled landing on Canelo. GGG Jabbing against no defensive bums like Lemieux is not the same as jabbing on Canelo who has proven track record taking that punch away against faster fighters. If GGG can't hurt Canelo with something big and it turns into a jabbing boxing match GGG will lose this fight because GGG is too easy a target to hit and slow
        Last edited by bigdunny1; 08-19-2017, 09:52 AM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
          Lara, Cotto, Khan are all excellent jabbers and the numbers speak for themselves for their careers landing that shot yet all struggled landing on Canelo. GGG Jabbing against no defensive bums like Lemieux is not the same as jabbing on Canelo who has proven track record taking that punch away against faster fighters. If GGG can't hurt Canelo with something big and it turns into a jabbing boxing match GGG will lose this fight because GGG is too easy a target to hit and slow
          Canelo was able because cotto and khan are small, he can counter one of there jabs with a over hand right and from there on they will be cautious.

          He doesn't have that privilege with triple g.

          Your saying/hoping if canelo can take triple g punches, with that alone tells me he lost already, no one can take triple g punches.

          Look how Stevens was able to counter/land his left hook many times when triple g would throw his over hand right. Stevens left hook counter never stopped triple g from throwing his over hand right.

          Canelo is in with a total different animal now, he's in for a rude awakening.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by BTL View Post
            Canelo was able because cotto and khan are small, he can counter one of there jabs with a over hand right and from there on they will be cautious.

            He doesn't have that privilege with triple g.

            Your saying/hoping if canelo can take triple g punches, with that alone tells me he lost already, no one can take triple g punches.

            Look how Stevens was able to counter/land his left hook many times when triple g would throw his over hand right. Stevens left hook counter never stopped triple g from throwing his over hand right.

            Canelo is in with a total different animal now, he's in for a rude awakening.
            Lara and Trout are every much as big as Canelo and still they struggled landing that punch as the stats show. What does Canelo being bigger have to do with those guys all not being fast enough to land jabs on Canelo who was able to slip that punch? Neither Khan or Cotto were shy about throwing Jabs especially Cotto he threw a career high 400 jabs he just couldn't land them.

            Who said anything about Canelo trying to take GGG's punch? He doesn't just sit and let guys punch him in the face like GGG does he ACTUALLY has a defense and can avoid punches. If GGG can't land something big and hurt Canelo he will get outboxed it's that simple. If Brook and Jacobs can land over 140 power shots on GGG over 12 rounds because he has no head movement and defense what do you think the faster handed Canelo will do? Canelo will make GGG miss a lot and his fast hands will have GGG looking like a deer in head lights.
            Last edited by bigdunny1; 08-19-2017, 10:16 AM.

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            • #46
              Canelo is the superior boxer I think he'll win in a decent fight

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              • #47
                Originally posted by PulpFriction View Post
                I think footwork and stamina will play a factor for GGG beating Canelo. Also, i hope Canelo doesn't go near those ropes. If Canelo can dictate the pace then he may win but if golovkin pushes forward all fight then i can't see Canelo winning or even surviving.
                This is true. Canelo does in fact love to hang on the ropes and counterpunch. The only difference here is he will have Gennady Golovkin all over him. If Canelo can take Golovkin's power he has a shot at a decision. If not it will be business as usual for Golovkin, gradual beat down until submission or KO. Just my opinion. Hope it's a competitive fight and the best man wins.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                  WOW what a load of horse shyt. Canelo's defense is the EXACT reason why guys he's faced who are HISTORICALLY more active, land more punches and at higher rate then GGG's opponents yet see their entire offensive production fall off a cliff when they fight Canelo you idiot. Same with Floyd or any great defensive fighter. When you face these guys with good defense you typically end up throwing less because you can't land and are worried about missing and being countered. And only going by % landed and saying well it's only a few percent points off so they are the same defensive fighter ignoring the FACT that Canelo opponents are landing double and in some cases 3X fewer punchers? By that ****** logic GGG is only a few more percent points off of Floyd Mayweather as well I guess his defense is comparable to him.

                  Khan didn't land more then Canelo in a single round of their fight was outlanded in power punches badly and finished with 48 total punches landing ONLY 28 power punches the entire fight. Khan was on pace to land just 96 punches and 56 power shots over 12 rounds. Basically career lows. For comparison Brook landed 85 punches on GGG in just a 5 round fight and 60 power punches, Brook was also outlanding GGG in power punches before the final round. Brook was on pace to land 204 punches and 144 power punches over 12 rounds. Jacobs did outland GGG in power punches in their 12 round fight landing 175 total punches and 144 power punches on GGG. So while the percentages are only a few points off GGG is getting hit with double the amount and in power punches TRIPLE the amount. His defense sucks.
                  Actually it would be 130 power punches and 46 jabs. You can't just take the highest number.
                  So using this logic, that means that Canelo only lands 90 power shots in a fight? And 50 jabs. And that means that GGG lands 165 powershots and 130 jabs. That's a lot of offense.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Wildstalker View Post
                    Here are the 3 main reasons that Canelo is going to beat Golovkin resoundingly in September. Those of you who know boxing should know what I'm talking about.

                    1. Canelo has the better defense. At the highest level, the fighter who has the better defense and gets hit less wins usually, not the fighter with more power. We've seen this time and time again.

                    2. Canelo has vastly superior Pro experience. In the Pro ring, Canelo has already faced some of the best P4P fighters of this Generation in Mayweather, Cotto, etc. He has also had the guidance of people like Oscar Dela Hoya since he was a teen.

                    On the otherhand, none of GGG's MW opponents were P4P level. I am also a skeptic of Abel Sanchez's abilities. AMATEUR EXPERIENCE IS NOT THE SAME.

                    3. Canelo is more versatile. He can attack but can also defend, slip, and counter-punch just as well. GGG has iron fists and an iron chin, but he is only at his best when he is pushing forward and attacking. At the highest level, ONE WAY WILL NOT BE ENOUGH. GGG is not superman.

                    Defense, experience, and the ability to adjust is much more important than power or speed.

                    If you disagree name the reasons why GGG wins.
                    Canelo does not have better defense and will go down with a shot to the liver.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by 1g5a22 View Post
                      Other that a load of shot dudes Canelo has never dominated anyone world class! Lara, Cotto, Floyd, Trout.. Even Khan was outboxing him! He's faced nothing remotely comparable to a MW like triple G! D I C K H E A D
                      you pointed several world class fights for canelo, ggg has only one and he failed to dominate...

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