Ali: The Most Fixed Fighter of All Time

[sugar ray lenrd]

Heat is heat punk. If you don't know that maybe you're lying about being an ex-pro. If it was that hot dudes wouldn't be in suits and polyester warm up suits. Too fcuking hot namsayin?

Quit sucking Ali's d1ck. Real boxers know his career was filled was fixes.

Foreman destroyed dudes that went life and death with Ali, but all of a sudden Foreman couldn't crack and egg cuz it was too hot.

Actually, I know your lying. A retired pro from 87' would NEVER EVER say epic. Young mans words. CAUGHT!!!

Why wouldn't I say epic? A pro from 1987 wouldn't use the word epic? well guess what BEETCH? I just used it....I have kids in high school & college. As far as my boxing career, I don't have prove anything to anyone.

Heat is heat what kind of $hett is that. You are comparing the heat in your bull$hett sparring in a hot gym to a great Championship fight in central Africa. (guys where in suits & warmup suits ...LMFAO)

[LockardTheGOAT]

Dumb troll effort. 0/10.

[TonyGe]

I think that Ali standing over Liston picture is so iconic people forget Liston did get up. It actually didn't lay him out. Granted Liston looked "funny" trying to get up, but the reality is he got up. The real sketchy stuff was right after they started fighting again the ref (Jersey Joe Walcott iirc) called it saying the ringside count guy had hit 10 or something like that.

One would think if Liston was throwing the fight he just stays down til a 10 count is called.

Exactly Liston supposedly takes a dive but gets up to beat the count. Wierdest dive I've ever seen. Foreman was clearly gassed after punching himself out and he got hit flush by Ali. Look at the fight. Foreman had him on the ropes and was only throwing arm punches at that point and a lot missed which sucks up a lot of energy. The temperature was in the high 80's at 90%. humidity.

[mlac]

I dont believe any of that, but i will have to because detective mcnulty is a goddamn genius.
He's prolly been on the booze again.

[McNulty]

Why wouldn't I say epic? A pro from 1987 wouldn't use the word epic? well guess what BEETCH? I just used it....I have kids in high school & college. As far as my boxing career, I don't have prove anything to anyone.

Heat is heat what kind of $hett is that. You are comparing the heat in your bull$hett sparring in a hot gym to a great Championship fight in central Africa. (guys where in suits & warmup suits ...LMFAO)

What does a championship fight fcuking matter you f@cking parakeet??? You're acting like this was Foremans 1st time on a big stage.

Yea b1cth, it was hotter in that gym than motherfcuking Zaire on October 30 1974 at 4am which was less than 80°.

That gym was 95° easy. I did 6 and 8 rounds with champs in a small box with no fresh air --- easy work.

Fake pro, fake news, fcuk off.

[McNulty]

Hey ******, you don't need to fix $hett for me.
-Lou Saverese
-Shanon Briggs (whenever he stepped up in competition he never KO them, with the exception of an old Ray Mercer in 2005)
-Crawford Grimsley
-Axel Shultz
-Tommy Morrison
-Michael Moorer
-Pierre Coetzer
-Alex Stewart (everytime he stepped up to a good boxer (he didn't ko any of them. Yes he has high KO ratio but unlike a young Foreman who actually KO Good boxers)
-Jimmy Ellis
-Evander Holyfield
-Terry Anderson
-Ken Lakusta
-Adilson Rodrigues
-Mike Jameson
-Gerry Cooney
-Everett Martin
-Bert Cooper (again when he stepped up incompetition never KO a good opponent)

And for the record none of those opponents that Foreman fought in his 40's come close to Ali.

What's his name?...what's his name? Say it!!!

All of those in bold hit harder than Ali.

[TonyGe]

Have you? Unforking...wtf?



Look at your AV, of course you're going to jock Ali.



Foreman been hit harder by harder punching fighters in his 40's and never once went close to going down. Ain't that a b1tch?

He was knocked down three or four times by Ron Lyle. Ron and Foreman were both exhausted. The series of punches in the corner that Foreman landed to end the fight were strickly arm punches. That's what happens when a fighter gets exhausted he can be hurt a lot easier. In fact Foreman attributed his success in his second career to learning to pace himself.

[sugar ray lenrd]

What does a championship fight fcuking matter you f@cking parakeet??? You're acting like this was Foremans 1st time on a big stage.

Yea b1cth, it was hotter in that gym than motherfcuking Zaire on October 30 1974 at 4am which was less than 80°.

That gym was 95° easy. I did 6 and 8 rounds with champs in a small box with no fresh air --- easy work.

Fake pro, fake news, fcuk off.

Listen you Twit, Championship fight has all the more to do with it when compared to your so called sparring with champions in a hot gym. For the record every gym back in the days were all hot sometimes almost freaking 100 degrees. The fight in Zaire was 90% humidity. But lets talk real boxing here & lets stop the name callings, you're saying the Ali/Foreman fight was fixed. I beg to differ. You're also saying that in your gym when you sparred with Champions that it was hotter than the Ali/Foreman fight which was in Central Africa. Another thing, and i'm sure you'll agree with me if you was a fighter, we don't attack each other on-line, up front or anything. If anything there is a lot of respect among us. I mean we virtually don't have anything to prove anymore.

Ok, lets make a poll & have this forum (NSB) vote on it.

[McNulty]

Listen you Twit, Championship fight has all the more to do with it when compared to your so called sparring with champions in a hot gym. For the record every gym back in the days were all hot sometimes almost freaking 100 degrees. The fight in Zaire was 90% humidity. But lets talk real boxing here & lets stop the name callings, you're saying the Ali/Foreman fight was fixed. I beg to differ. You're also saying that in your gym when you sparred with Champions that it was hotter than the Ali/Foreman fight which was in Central Africa. Another thing, and i'm sure you'll agree with me if you was a fighter, we don't attack each other on-line, up front or anything. If anything there is a lot of respect among us. I mean we virtually don't have anything to prove anymore.

Ok, lets make a poll & have this forum (NSB) vote on it.

Championship fight don't mean jack in the conversation, get it through your head! Like I said before, this wasn't the 1st time FOREMAN, NOT ME was on the BIG STAGE you f@cking ******.

Got proof the humidity was 90% and it doesn't matter it was under 80°. I live in a humid state.

Respect? You came in here talking big ****, now all of a sudden your humble pie because you're getting **** on?

[McNulty]

He was knocked down three or four times by Ron Lyle. Ron and Foreman were both exhausted. The series of punches in the corner that Foreman landed to end the fight were strickly arm punches. That's what happens when a fighter gets exhausted he can be hurt a lot easier. In fact Foreman attributed his success in his second career to learning to pace himself.

**NEWS FLASH**

Foreman always throws arm punches.