Ali: The Most Fixed Fighter of All Time

[Thraxox]

He knocked him down and Ali got straight up. Watch the fight again. Ali battered him. Frazier was just chasing after him the whole fight and landing sparingly, he spent 2 weeks in the hospital he was so tired chasing Ali.

I watched the fight a thousand times. And Ali had no answer for the left hook and Frazier landed it at will. You pretend like ALi got knocked down early in the fight to get up and dominated the rest when he was knocked down at the last round. Try again.

[LetOutTheCage]

Its sad that someone wants to slander a legend of the sport, especially given that he passed away only recently.

OP how about you provide actual proof before discrediting the GOAT.

[McNulty]

Details of the fixes for each fight? And specifically the Foreman fight. How was that fixed exactly?

Foreman obviously took a dive. Foreman is tough as they come, Ali didn't knock him out dude. Shavers whipped Ali's a$$, have you not seen it? Shavers is what removed any remnants of Ali having any golden years. Death blow after death blow battering him around the ring.

Liston took a dive both times, everybody knows it even the FBI investigated it. Liston was in a lot of fixes knowingly.

Jones beat Clay, straight up. Watch the fight.

If Ali is involved in fixed fights, the winners don't usually know.

Did I say he did?

Its sad that someone wants to slander a legend of the sport, especially given that he passed away only recently.

OP how about you provide actual proof before discrediting the GOAT.

A legend that called Joe Louis an Uncle Tom? The legend that called Frazier an Uncle Tom. There is a way to sell a fight, then there is pure venom. Ali didn't do **** for anybody but himself. The way he treated Joe was horrible. Without Louis Ali wouldn't have gotten fights.

Proof? Watch the fcuking fights you mong!

[Blender]

The Liston rematch fight was recreated by computers and the phantom punch has been proven to be a legit knock out punch. People are dumb.

Ali is a legend and the greatest icon of all time.

[cashdon]

2nd Liston fight comes to mind it wasn't a Phantom Punch as some have claimed it was a beautiful pull counter but definitely not a big enough punch to lay a big guy like Liston out like that hence the angry seething Ali yelling at Liston to get up and fight. An experienced boxers know when they got somebody good. Ali's reaction was very telling.

I don't know about fixes but he definitely got his fair share of debatable decisions too.

[Eff Pandas]

Foreman obviously took a dive. Foreman is tough as they come, Ali didn't knock him out dude.

Weirdest dive ever. Beat on a guy for 21 minutes before getting gassed & KO'd

[Eff Pandas]

2nd Liston fight comes to mind it wasn't a Phantom Punch as some have claimed it was a beautiful pull counter but definitely not a big enough punch to lay a big guy like Liston out

I think that Ali standing over Liston picture is so iconic people forget Liston did get up. It actually didn't lay him out. Granted Liston looked "funny" trying to get up, but the reality is he got up. The real sketchy stuff was right after they started fighting again the ref (Jersey Joe Walcott iirc) called it saying the ringside count guy had hit 10 or something like that.

One would think if Liston was throwing the fight he just stays down til a 10 count is called.

[snoopy360]

Wow dude your stretching really hard. Unless you have concrete proof, Ali isn't the kind of legend you just go after. You do understand that Ali transcended boxing right? His morale character alone wouldn't have allowed the fixing of a boxing match if he knew about it. Unless you have evidence to support your claim you need to keep that **** tight to your chest.

[snoopy360]

Dude went to prison and gave up his prime rather then fight in a war he didn't believe in. Came back and was the undisputed champion of the world. You come on here and try to tarnish that with your opinion when you haven't even stood for yourself. GTFOH!!!

[New England]

Details of the fixes for each fight? And specifically the Foreman fight. How was that fixed exactly?

ali fixed it with counterpunches off of the ropes.