Joe Calzaghe vs Andre Ward

[BillyBoxing]

What are you talking about? He got ONE kd in 2 fights and quit in the second...the only thing serGAY figured out was that he didn't have the skill and heart Ward did.

It's pretty much obvious Meth.

Ward vs Kov were 20 close fantastic rounds of boxing wich ended by a stoppage in favour of Ward.

I call it like it is.

Ward never looked superior to Kova skillwise.
Neither outclassed the other guy.
Ward was dominant to the body, Kov to the head.

Dre has more heart/intangibles that's why he put that Russian motha***a away.

Regarding the Joe topic, it would be a tough fight for Dre because Joe had skills and hearth too, could come back stronger from a KD.

That slapper was hard to beat bro.

[BillyBoxing]

This scab never saw Slappy Joe fight.

You're definitely in love with every white fighters.

Yet, Slappy is recognized as the GOAT 168 pounders and your trolling on NSB will have none effect on that fact.

[BillyBoxing]

I think the Kessler win is much more impressive than Lacy as far as legacy, Joe did completely obliterate Jeff, but I think Kessler would've too.

You obviously know that Joe is the man who took Kessller's 0 away?

[BillyBoxing]

Hopkins beat Joe. Landed much harder and more effective punches. Joe got the nod because HBO wanted to have the Joe/rjj match.

Joe did however show in that fight that he shares Andre Ward's ability to get away with blatant low blows though.

Joe has never fought anyone near the caliber of Ward at anywhere near their athletic primes.

He's been hittable throughout his career and has Paulie Malinagi level power.

Ward beats Calzaghe, Kovalev starches him in a more entertaining fight than Ward/Joe

Same for Ward, he never fought someone as good as Joe.

Joe would overwhelm and make Kitty Kov quit the very first fight.

Style make fights and Kovalev wouldn't like that pace at all, he doesn't have the defense, stamina hearth to beat Joe unless he ices him in the very first rounds wich wouldn't happen knowing Joe's hability to recover and come back stronger from an early KD.

The best style to beat Joe was Nard's style, pure tricky counterpuncher.

Joe won versus a game Nard who was top 5 P4P, not the grandpa who was threw off the ring by Joe Smith like Kova fought.

Honnestly bro, you DKSAB for saying Kova, a man whose best win IS FCKIN JEAN PASCAL OR NATHAN CLEVERLY would beat Joe C, GTFOH.

[mathed]

Prime Joe beats that cheating POS into retirement...the refs wouldn't have even mattered because coWARD never sees the final bell. Go watch the Lacy fight, Joe would beat him like an abused housewife.

[mathed]

Same for Ward, he never fought someone as good as Joe.

Joe would overwhelm and make Kitty Kov quit the very first fight.

Style make fights and Kovalev wouldn't like that pace at all, he doesn't have the defense, stamina hearth to beat Joe unless he ices him in the very first rounds wich wouldn't happen knowing Joe's hability to recover and come back stronger from an early KD.

The best style to beat Joe was Nard's style, pure tricky counterpuncher.

Joe won versus a game Nard who was top 5 P4P, not the grandpa who was threw off the ring by Joe Smith like Kova fought.

Honnestly bro, you DKSAB for saying Kova, a man whose best win IS FCKIN JEAN PASCAL OR NATHAN CLEVERLY would beat Joe C, GTFOH.

Unlike coWARD, Joe C had no issues fighting in the other man's backyard and still beat them. For as much as Mayweather brags about his record, he had to go through hell to obtain it.....multiple retirements, stipulations for fights that restricted all of his opponents, all fights in his hometown. Joe C had a perfect record and only retired once...when it mattered, went out on top.

[Metho_4u]

You obviously know that Joe is the man who took Kessller's 0 away?

Of course, I was actually a pretty big fan of Joe, massive heart, no fear, one hell of a chin, and like his style or not, slapping or not, he had a pretty good KO ratio.

[Metho_4u]

Unlike coWARD, Joe C had no issues fighting in the other man's backyard and still beat them. For as much as Mayweather brags about his record, he had to go through hell to obtain it.....multiple retirements, stipulations for fights that restricted all of his opponents, all fights in his hometown. Joe C had a perfect record and only retired once...when it mattered, went out on top.

The coward you speak of that b1tched golovkin and then beat kovalev twice when people like you said he wouldn't sign, then he signed, then people like you said he would fake an injury or pull out of the fight, then he didn't fake an injury or pull out of the fight, then he won the fight...then people like you said he wouldn't take the rematch, then he took the rematch, then, after much complaining about the judges, ward finished him, then you said they were all low blows...i guess even the right hand that almost took Quitalov's head off was also low too... lol

[GhostofDempsey]

It's a 50/50 fight in my opinion, but I would slightly favor Calzaghe. Ward wouldn't be able to get away with his dirty tactics as easily with Joe.

[robertzimmerman]

Yet Ward hasn't beaten better fighters.

Joe beat an undefeated Kessler, Hopkins, Eubank and a solid bunch of world champions like Mitchell, Robin Reid, Richie Woodhall, Jeff Lacy.

People act like Hopkins was shot but he was the lineal 175 champ and remember how he schooled Pavlik following the Joe fight.

You should know as a brit dude that guys like Reid or Woodhall (olympic medalist and WBC champ) were very solid fighters.

Ward best wins are a left lover in Kessler, Kovalev, Froch, Dawson at 168, Barrera, Abraham.

How is that so much better legacywise???

I just don't know HOW Ward is a "MUCH BETTER" fighter.

And if it takes 20 close rounds to Dre to beat Kova, I don't know how Ward is so obviously supposed to outclass Joe in 12.

I can tell by how you've written out your post that you haven't been objective.

Both are/were great fighters.

I would have seen the fight as being a genuine 50/50 fight.


Let's take a look at Joe's record:


He beat a faded Eubank, who took the fight on 11 days notice, after preparing to fight at LHW.

He sc****d by Reid, who went on to lose to Silvio Branco.

He sc****d by a 43 year Hopkins, who had to feign injury to buy some time in order to have a rest.


Ward beat Froch with ease despite having a double fracture of his hand.

His wins over Kovalev are better than any of Joe's wins.

You speak about him needing 20 rounds, yet he fought him twice.

How is beating Kovalev twice in 20 rounds, evidence of how he wouldn't have been able to have beaten Joe over 12?

That doesn't make sense.