Joe Calzaghe vs Andre Ward

[JK1700]

Where do you get your ganja from?
You make it sound like it wouldn't even be a fight. Look at Hopkins he had to fake low blows just to catch his breath. Calzaghe was busy and had more speed than Ward so say what you want and try your best to belittle the Hall Of Fame longest reining SM champ 10yrs, record number of defences etc etc
And Calzaghe would have schooled Froch.

I made a post earlier stating that it would be a competitive fight but Ward would win just because he's the better overall fighter. Hopkins was very old by that point like 44, we're talking about someone in his absolute prime who hasn't lost any kind of match since he was a kid. No disrespect to Calzaghe but if you watch both of them you know Ward's better. It's not about long reigns, it's about skills.

[petero]

it wasnt a gift man, hbo had him 116-111 up for a reason, cause he put on a clinic. joe looked great that night, compubox isnt 100 percent accurate, but when i watched that fight joe was the aggressor, joe was landing the shots, hopkins was just fighting negative- he was outgunned.

This idiot above is delusional. Round 8 Hopkins faked low blows because he couldn't hang. Joe outgunned him big-time

[TonyGe]

Joe Calzaghe vs Andre Ward
How you see this fight going?

Without the headbutting, wrestling, and low blows by Ward. I see a very interesting fight that Ward barely wins.

[Cutthroat]

Anybody that watched SOG VS Kessler knows that Calzaghe would mop the floor with Ward.

Calzaghe shut his ass out 12-0. And that was against a PRIME Kessler.

2 of the judges had it 116-112 for Calzaghe, that fight wasn't a shut out and was far more competitive than Ward-Kessler.

Kessler was still in his prime for years to come, meanwhile Ward took Kessler barely 20 fights in at 25 years old not in his prime. Joe was already 40+ fights in at his peak.

Ward beat Kessler and Bika far more convincingly than Joe ever did. Dawson, Kovalev, Smith, JT also beat Hopkins more convincingly than Joe.

[daggum]

Anybody that watched SOG VS Kessler knows that Calzaghe would mop the floor with Ward.

Calzaghe shut his ass out 12-0. And that was against a PRIME Kessler.

when did that happen? i had it 7-5 calzaghe and most had it about 8-4. also is kessler the stiff robot even close to wards level???

[daggum]

Without the headbutting, wrestling, and low blows by Ward. I see a very interesting fight that Ward barely wins.

but there wouldnt be a ward fight without them so why even pretend?

[TonyGe]

but there wouldnt be a ward fight without them so why even pretend?

Good point.

[BillyBoxing]

Guys like you completely ignore context to fit your agenda, idk how many times you've been told Eubank had to lose 20lbs in 2 weeks to fight Joe and you act like it doesn't matter. Eubank got beaten 2x immediately after fighting Joe to journeyman Carl Thompson.

Joe struggled mightily with Reid, a guy who lost to Mulanga 1 fight before Joe, and lost 1 fight after Joe to Branco. Again, you ignore context.

Lacy, struggled mightily with journeyman Omar Sheika, again you ignore context.

RJJ, brutally KO'd by Tarver, Johnson 4 years earlier, once again you ignore context.

Woodhall, jesus christ you're reaching, clear losses to Beyer/Holmes, arguably lost to Catley, once again you do your mental gymnastics.

Brewer couldn't even beat Ottke, one of the biggest jokes in boxing, Ottke didn't even need a signature robbery to win the fight lmao. Also stopped by Veit 2 years later.

Bika, just like Kessler Ward fought him and beat him far more convincingly than Joe.

Context matters, YDKSAB without it.

A guy getting dropped by shot to **** RJJ, feather fisted Hopkins, struggling with Reid, getting dropped by journeyman like Mitchell is somehow going to handle the punches of Froch, Barrera, Kovalev etc.

But you are just yourself creating a context in order to downplay Calzaghe's opponent.

I can downgrade Ward's record too.

And it will be faster.

Abraham, an average 160 champ who is utter sht at 168.
Pavlik was a lot better than Abraham by the way.

Bika, Kessler, 2 Calzaghe leftlovers, Calzaghe took Kessler's 0 laid a blueprint.

Froch, never was P4P to me despite having a decent record, he's not better than Kessler.

Kitty Kov; best win? JEAN FCKIN PASCAL.

Miranda is a bum.

[BattlingNelson]

Kessler picked Calzaghe.

[statosteve]

I'd back joe in a close fight