Who hits harder; McGregor or Robert Guerrero?

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  • LacedUp
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    #51
    Originally posted by RussTBE
    Aldo always had a questionable chin.
    lolwhat That's a bull**** statement.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #52
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      I said knocked them dead. I don't know how much more someone can get knocked out than what Aldo was.

      It took them 5 minutes to get him to stand and even then he didn't know where he was.

      I'd say that's pretty much done.
      What?!

      Do you really mean these things you say or are you just saying them for a reaction?

      He dropped Aldo heavy and punches twice on the floor.

      After I'd say 5 seconds, Aldo tried to get up and the Doctors or whoever wouldn't let him.

      Camera cuts to McGregor celebrating for about 20 seconds, cuts back and Aldo is standing up.

      About 30 seconds later cuts back to him again and he's standing up and squats and puts his head in his hands I'd imagine from severe disappointment.

      "5 minutes"

      I had to and quickly watch that again on youtube just incase.

      Anyway, definitely wasn't knocked out cold.

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        #53
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        It's not entirely true. If you want to fight above 147, the rule is you fight in 10oz. Remember Floyd complaining about that vs dela hoya?

        There are benefits of boxing gloves, i.e catching shots, covering larger parts etc - but pure force and damage done, there's not a whole lot of difference between 4oz and 8/10oz.

        Scientific research has been done on this. it's all over youtube.
        Scientific data doesnt show the human aspect and the fact is punches are slower and easier to block, especially with the bigger gloves and this CLEARLY impacts KO percentages. There is a reason why the weight of the glove is a big concern in fights and in sparring because anyone in that ring knows the difference. And the only way to compare Conor and Floyd's power is by SAME CONDITIONS and that means having Conor fight UFC fighters or boxers with 8 ounce gloves. Comparisons and ONLY happen when all the conditions are the same. There is no way in hell if Floyd was allowed to use 4 ounce gloves that he wouldnt have a high KO percentages and conversely the same if Conor was using 8 ounce gloves. It is much easier to block slower punches than faster ones and that has a huge impact.

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          #54
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          It's not entirely true. If you want to fight above 147, the rule is you fight in 10oz. Remember Floyd complaining about that vs dela hoya?

          There are benefits of boxing gloves, i.e catching shots, covering larger parts etc - but pure force and damage done, there's not a whole lot of difference between 4oz and 8/10oz.

          Scientific research has been done on this. it's all over youtube.
          I've seen that video the sports science one but I tend to take a lot of this "sport science" stuff with a pinch of salt.

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            #55
            Originally posted by richardt
            Scientific data doesnt show the human aspect and the fact is punches are slower and easier to block, especially with the bigger gloves and this CLEARLY impacts KO percentages. There is a reason why the weight of the glove is a big concern in fights and in sparring because anyone in that ring knows the difference. And the only way to compare Conor and Floyd's power is by SAME CONDITIONS and that means having Conor fight UFC fighters or boxers with 8 ounce gloves. Comparisons and ONLY happen when all the conditions are the same. There is no way in hell if Floyd was allowed to use 4 ounce gloves that he wouldnt have a high KO percentages and conversely the same if Conor was using 8 ounce gloves. It is much easier to block slower punches than faster ones and that has a huge impact.
            He would most likely break his hands even more often.

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              #56
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              I've seen that video the sports science one but I tend to take a lot of this "sport science" stuff with a pinch of salt.
              There's a difference. but minimal.

              Going from 8oz to 4oz isn't going to make you a puncher.

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                #57
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                He would most likely break his hands even more often.
                Brittle hands would be a huge downfall to the length of a career, that is certain.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  What?!

                  Do you really mean these things you say or are you just saying them for a reaction?

                  He dropped Aldo heavy and punches twice on the floor.

                  After I'd say 5 seconds, Aldo tried to get up and the Doctors or whoever wouldn't let him.

                  Camera cuts to McGregor celebrating for about 20 seconds, cuts back and Aldo is standing up.

                  About 30 seconds later cuts back to him again and he's standing up and squats and puts his head in his hands I'd imagine from severe disappointment.

                  "5 minutes"

                  I had to and quickly watch that again on youtube just incase.

                  Anyway, definitely wasn't knocked out cold.
                  they helped him to his stool? Not knocked out cold?
                  Are you serious? Listen to Joe Rogan's commentary. The guy asked his team if he was knocked out.

                  You sound like a hater now This is getting pathetic.

                  "not knocked out cold" GTFO with that bs

                  He fell face first to the canvas, lied like a turtle on his back moving arms and legs.

                  "not cold doe" hahaha.
                  Last edited by LacedUp; 07-16-2017, 07:08 PM.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    they helped him to his stool? Not knocked out cold?
                    Are you serious? Listen to Joe Rogan's commentary. The guy asked his team if he was knocked out.

                    You sound like a hater now This is getting pathetic.

                    "not knocked out cold" GTFO with that bs

                    He fell face first to the canvas, lied like a turtle on his back moving arms and legs.

                    "not cold doe" hahaha.
                    He was standing on his own and sqautted and that was after less than a minute. "5 minutes"

                    He wasn't out cold? Badly hurt obviously

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                      #60
                      Doesn't matter if they have better technique or whatever, we all know punchers are born not made and the fights at 154 he'll probably be 170 by fight night.

                      No question he hits harder than Guerrero. The weight and everything else considered I'd say he probably hit about as hard as Ortiz who I would put around mid-list.
                      Different types of power too I'd say his power was more comparable to an Ortiz.

                      He's not the puncher he is made out to be IMO these fighters just haven't the built up punch resistance and are clueless on how to fight a southpaw so get caught blind sided whilst overextending but he definitely will have some sort of power Floyd had ought to respect.
                      Floyds older and slower too, chances are his punch resistance has diminished.

                      He has some sort of punchers chance.

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