Settle this Once and for All: Was Manny Pacquiao ever on PEDs?

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  • richardt
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    #51
    Originally posted by Vegemil
    No you can go up 30+ pounds in weight and keep your power and speed. We got some real dumbasses in here who must really love Pac.
    The fact is, per the article I posed on this thread, Pac's KO's at higher weight match other boxers who rose in weight, which kills the whole PED's myth from the rise in weight factor. The article shows the whole analysis.

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    • Richard Hamilton
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      #52
      How can you settle it when nobody on here knows the truth ?

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        #53
        we will never know but its su****ious how he just suddenly lost all his power....

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        • RussB23
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          #54
          Im a fan of manny , he was very entertaining. But nobody can deny the way he was jumping up in weight just beating the piss out of dudes like cotto and margarito is very suspect. How does someone move up that much in weight and seem to become even more powerful?

          Either hes just a very special fighter, used something, or both.

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          • rickJen
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            #55
            Originally posted by RussTBE
            Im a fan of manny , he was very entertaining. But nobody can deny the way he was jumping up in weight just beating the piss out of dudes like cotto and margarito is very suspect. How does someone move up that much in weight and seem to become even more powerful?

            Either hes just a very special fighter, used something, or both.
            You will never suspect Mayweather if that's the case.
            I won't even suspect Berto or Peterson. Yet they tested positive.

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            • Floyd is TBE
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              #56
              Floyd and other greats had to adjust their styles to move up in weight as many times as they did. PBF does not fight anything at all like Money Mayweather.

              But Manny has fought the same way his entire career. The only thing that changed is his power and punch output declined significantly once he got off the roids. He used to be able to throw over a thousands punches a night and stop the likes of Cotto and De La Hoya. Now he can't even put away C class fighters such as Algieri and Jeff Horn while he struggles to throw over 300 punches.

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              • New England
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                #57
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                What is a saline IV most commonly used for? What do boxers do to make weight?



                IV saline is not the most effective treatment for moderate dehydration. keep in mind that this is a guy who claimed to cut no weight fight week, and walk around in the low 150's, even bragging about it by showing off his scale weeks out from a fight.

                the most effective treatment for moderate dehydration is... you guessed it, drinking fluids and electrolytes. this is fairly well backed up by medical science. athletes report feeling better when they drink to rehydrate, and when performance and vitals are monitored you'll see benefits of oral hydration vs an IV


                and again, you're just an idiot if you don't suspect floyd of PED use after he was caught doing what he was caught doing and the manner in which he was caught. there's no verifying medical data to support the idea that floyd was severely dehydrated. does it prove he was on something? no. does it look bad when a guy who claims to cut zero weight gets popped with an IV treatment commonly used to mask PED use and claims he was dehydrated ?
                you decide


                so was he abusing the weigh in, drying out, and ballooning up like the hulk with IV's, or masking something he didn't want you to see?


                either way the man looks super clean after getting popped with an IV in his arm. cleaner than pacquiao, whose main cause of su****ion for many was that he was accused of PED use by their hero floyd mayweather, for sure.

                clownery.


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                  #58
                  Originally posted by New England
                  IV saline is not the most effective treatment for moderate dehydration. keep in mind that this is a guy who claimed to cut no weight fight week, and walk around in the low 150's, even bragging about it by showing off his scale weeks out from a fight.

                  the most effective treatment for moderate dehydration is... you guessed it, drinking fluids and electrolytes. this is fairly well backed up by medical science. athletes report feeling better when they drink to rehydrate, and when performance and vitals are monitored you'll see benefits of oral hydration vs an IV


                  and again, you're just an idiot if you don't suspect floyd of PED use after he was caught doing what he was caught doing and the manner in which he was caught. there's no verifying medical data to support the idea that floyd was severely dehydrated. does it prove he was on something? no. does it look bad when a guy who claims to cut zero weight gets popped with an IV treatment commonly used to mask PED use and claims he was dehydrated ?
                  you decide


                  so was he abusing the weigh in, drying out, and ballooning up like the hulk with IV's, or masking something he didn't want you to see?


                  either way the man looks super clean after getting popped with an IV in his arm. cleaner than pacquiao, whose main cause of su****ion for many was that he was accused of PED use by their hero floyd mayweather, for sure.

                  clownery.


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                  You aren't medically trained. You don't know what Mayweathers condition was, you weren't there. He was examined and given an IV by a paramedic.

                  Paramedic that was actually there and saw Mayweather >>>>> your opinion.

                  He didn't get caught doing anything he contacted USADA himself and they were there though the whole thing. They also tested him before and after the IV.

                  You've never been above anyone in your life. You can't even wipe your own ass because you have T-rex arms.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by RussTBE
                    Im a fan of manny , he was very entertaining. But nobody can deny the way he was jumping up in weight just beating the piss out of dudes like cotto and margarito is very suspect. How does someone move up that much in weight and seem to become even more powerful?

                    Either hes just a very special fighter, used something, or both.


                    pacquiao knocked out every single opponent he ever fought at 122 other than a guy named agapito sanchez, who was super dirty and caused head clashes that forced a TD early in the fight.

                    he had two knockouts at WW, shot de la hoya and miguel cotto, who he had to break down with sustained punishment. you're crazy, have not watched boxing for 15+years, and biased if you didnt' see a huge drop in punching power. he went from one of th best punchers of all time at 122-130 to a guy who had to wail on WW for several rounds and still couldnt' stop them.


                    there's not a ton of reason to even talk to you guys . i don't get much satisfaction from putting you in your place becaue of how little you actually get boxing, and how much of a fanboy you really are.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      You aren't medically trained. You don't know what Mayweathers condition was, you weren't there. He was examined and given an IV by a paramedic.

                      Paramedic that was actually there and saw Mayweather >>>>> your opinion.

                      He didn't get caught doing anything he contacted USADA himself and they were there though the whole thing. They also tested him before and after the IV.

                      You've never been above anyone in your life. You can't even wipe your own ass because you have T-rex arms.


                      i can read medical journals just fine . it is not hard if you're college educated and didn't **** around the whole time. i'm certainly qualified to read a medical journal. not my problem if you aren't in a position where you can understand what amounts to fairly basic science and around a grade 10-12 reading level


                      want to read some medical journals, or just attack me personally some more because you're getting bent over and f#cked in teh trhead?


                      you want the links or not?

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