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  • therealpugilist
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    #101
    Originally posted by koolkc107
    It's only a debate at all because some folks are putting a guy we all know was a great heavyweight on an even higher pedestal that in truth he doesn't merit.

    No one is aying Rocky was no good.

    But, there is a huge problem comparing him the the GOATs or TBEs.
    these dumb ass casuals think with their hearts and not their brains

    just cause you don't like a person's persona outside the ring, doesn't mean it dilutes what he did inside of the ring

    emotional lil kids on this site

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    • koolkc107
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      #102
      Originally posted by therealpugilist
      these dumb ass casuals think with their hearts and not their brains

      just cause you don't like a person's persona outside the ring, doesn't mean it dilutes what he did inside of the ring

      emotional lil kids on this site
      Exactly.

      Floyd is a once in a generation guy right there with any great you want to mention.

      Would be beat ALL of them?

      Probably not.

      But he deserves to be in the conversation.

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        #103
        Originally posted by therealpugilist
        mayweather beat a dozen lineal champions, over 20 major titlists, been in 26 title fights and won them all, beat more hall of famers, and contenders than Rocky

        its not even close bro

        nor is it even a legitimate debate
        How many of those guys were undisputed?

        In Marciano's time there was ONE champion. In Mayweather's there were FOUR per division. If Marciano's era was like Mayweathers then Charles would have been a champ, Moore would have been a champ, Lastarza would have been a champ, Louis would have been champ when Marciano fought him, Walcott was champ, Rex Layne would have been champ, Lee Savold would have been champ, Matthews would have been champ, and ****ell would have been champ. That's 9 in just 4 years in ONE division.

        Unfortunately Marciano had nowhere to move up to so he had no real options other than retire because there wasn't anybody left to fight.

        How many former or current undisputed champs did Mayweather fight? Marciano fought 4.

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          #104
          4 former or current undisputed champs?

          LOL!

          Floyd was LINEAL in 4 different WEIGHT CLASSES!

          Keep digging your hole, man...

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            #105
            Originally posted by Mr.MojoRisin'
            How many of those guys were undisputed?

            In Marciano's time there was ONE champion. In Mayweather's there were FOUR per division. If Marciano's era was like Mayweathers then Charles would have been a champ, Moore would have been a champ, Lastarza would have been a champ, Louis would have been champ when Marciano fought him, Walcott was champ, Rex Layne would have been champ, Lee Savold would have been champ, Matthews would have been champ, and ****ell would have been champ. That's 9 in just 4 years in ONE division.

            Unfortunately Marciano had nowhere to move up to so he had no real options other than retire because there wasn't anybody left to fight.

            How many former or current undisputed champs did Mayweather fight? Marciano fought 4.
            the man who beat the man is one champion, lineal champion.....Mosley, Judah, Cotto, ODLH, Pacquaio, G. Hernanez, Castillo, Mosley, Hatton, Corrales, Baldomir, Marquez all won lineal titles and various major alphabet titles


            Genaro hernandez held the wbc and wba and was undefeated at 130 until mayweather beat him in only his 18th pro fight

            De La Hoya was lineal in 3 divisons and won major titles in 3 others

            Mosley was lineal at 147 and won titles in 2 other divisions

            corrales lineal at 135 and held wbo, wbc there and ibf at 130

            no matter how you try to spin it...mayweather simply fought and beat better overall competition and accomplished more than him.




            history lesson.....the NBA(National boxing association)....IBC(international Boxing Council).....NYSAC( NEW YORK STATE ATHLETIC COMMISSION)....were the alphabet boys of their time and titles were splintered even back then.
            Last edited by therealpugilist; 06-30-2017, 12:35 PM.

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            • Larry the boss
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              #106
              Originally posted by Chuckguy
              Yeah but boxing was a mans sport back then not the sh it we have today
              so ummm fighting fighters with **** records is being a man?

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                #107
                Originally posted by Mr.MojoRisin'
                How many of those guys were undisputed?

                In Marciano's time there was ONE champion. In Mayweather's there were FOUR per division. If Marciano's era was like Mayweathers then Charles would have been a champ, Moore would have been a champ, Lastarza would have been a champ, Louis would have been champ when Marciano fought him, Walcott was champ, Rex Layne would have been champ, Lee Savold would have been champ, Matthews would have been champ, and ****ell would have been champ. That's 9 in just 4 years in ONE division.

                Unfortunately Marciano had nowhere to move up to so he had no real options other than retire because there wasn't anybody left to fight.

                How many former or current undisputed champs did Mayweather fight? Marciano fought 4.
                his era ******

                it was one of the weakest of the last 100 years...you know that

                had he beat someone like a prime patterson or liston then we would have something interesting to discuss

                Walcott Louis and Moore were middle aged when he fought them bro

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Mr.MojoRisin'
                  Mayweather didn't fight a single top 10 fighter prior to winning the title. True or False?

                  Marciano fought the available top contenders prior to winning the title. True or False?

                  Marciano had no international(world renowned) amateur boxing experience prior to turning pro. True or False?

                  Mayweather had fought guys from all over the world and was born into boxing so to speak, prior to turning pro. True or False?
                  Mayweather fought the lineal champ in his 18th damn fight..who gives a **** about contenders??

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by larryxxx.
                    Mayweather fought the lineal champ in his 18th damn fight..who gives a **** about contenders??
                    It proves he got there because of careful management. He didn't have to work for it like Marciano did. Marciano had to fight the contenders before he got a title shot.

                    As should be the usual custom.

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                      #110
                      Floyd beat more bums with belts, but it gives Larry a good platform to ballwash on

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