Who's 49-0 Is Better?

[pasawayako]

Marciano don't handicapped his opponent.

[Kigali]

Marciano don't handicapped his opponent.

That's all Pactrash is good for.

Look who's he fighting next...Horn

[pasawayako]

Don't forget Marquez, who was microscopically tiny (and old.)

Big name, though. But...old and tiny is Floyd's desired meat.

Haahahhah. floyd is great giant fighting midget.

[Chuckguy]

in 4 fights in a row

32nd fight he fought a guy 8-8-1

33rd fight he fought a guy 4-14-3

34th fight he fought a guy-13-15-1

35th fight he fought a guy 11-14-2


come on man

Yeah but boxing was a mans sport back then not the sh it we have today

[Chuckguy]

Marciano fought his own Brother...TWICE.

Mayweather > Marciano

Suck on that lil Adolph

Adolph! Lmfao that shi t was hilarious

[pasawayako]

That's all Pactrash is good for.

Look who's he fighting next...Horn

You mean that's all floyd is good for handicapping his opponent.

[koolkc107]

I think too much emphasis is being put on the "he did it at heavyweight" argument here.

Yes, the big men ARE a special group, but any boxing match has the potential for ANYONE stopping anyone.

And, you have numerous instances of fighters going from lower weights to heavy and having success, so I don't think that in itself is a decent argument in determining greatness in and of itself.

Giving all the respect to Rocky that I can, his record is in no way anywhere near close to Floyd's.

Floyd did it over 2 decades, fighting many more champions and just as many HOF caliber guys.

And there is something else.

While many point to the fact that Marciano fought more frequently than Floyd, no one is talking about how odd the mark of 49-0 is in context with the era Marciano fought in.

To the point, in an era where it wasn't uncommon to have a career with at least 100 fights, Rocky didn't break 50.

Surely, had he fought as much as his own contemporaries, he would have tasted defeat, and more than once judging by the guys he would have eventually encountered like Johansson, Patterson, Liston, and Ali.

Some could interpret this as a man who saw what was in the pipeline and decided to get out before he took an L. Me, I will take the fighter at his own word, that he wanted simply to go out on top.

But, regardless of the motivation, he missed fighting against guys that he, by all rights, should not have.

Missed on a scale that dwarfs any talk of the few guys Mayweather may have "avoided".

And, unlike Marciano, the guys Floyd DID FIGHT are as good or better than the ones he didn't.

Advantage (big time): Floyd

[therealpugilist]

Yeah but boxing was a mans sport back then not the sh it we have today

dude fought a lot of club fighters, and former middleweights and light heavyweights

he never beat a prime, Elite heavyweight in his entire career


deal with it.....Ezzard Charles was great but past prime, almost 100 fights and started at 160.....Archie Moore lost to every top heavy he fought, and Joe Louis was 175 years old

[therealpugilist]

Mayweather didn't fight a single top 10 fighter prior to winning the title. True or False?

Marciano fought the available top contenders prior to winning the title. True or False?

Marciano had no international(world renowned) amateur boxing experience prior to turning pro. True or False?

Mayweather had fought guys from all over the world and was born into boxing so to speak, prior to turning pro. True or False?

mayweather beat a dozen lineal champions, over 20 major titlists, been in 26 title fights and won them all, beat more hall of famers, and contenders than Rocky

its not even close bro

nor is it even a legitimate debate

[koolkc107]

mayweather beat a dozen lineal champions, over 20 major titlists, been in 26 title fights and won them all, beat more hall of famers, and contenders than Rocky

its not even close bro

nor is it even a legitimate debate

It's only a debate at all because some folks are putting a guy we all know was a great heavyweight on an even higher pedestal that in truth he doesn't merit.

No one is aying Rocky was no good.

But, there is a huge problem comparing him the the GOATs or TBEs.