Hagler: Not That Good

[McNulty]

Are you talking about when Hagler had 35 fights? Lmfao I can tell you must be a little kid because everyone knows that Hagler was one of the most ducked fighters of all time. NOBODY wanted to fight him. He was avoided by the champion for YEARS. Check his title defenses, ALL ranked or atgs.

Funny you say I got Hagler's **** in my mouth when you have been nonstop riding McCallum for the last 8 pages...

Only reason I keep bringing up McCallum because you keep saying he wasn't ranked like a fcuking parakeet.

Avoided by who? Give me the names cuz all your doing is regurgitating the stories put out there by Hagler himself.

Ranks don't mean siht when the division is dead. What don't you get about that?

You're like mentally disabled. When there is nobody good to fight and you ain't making siht, time to move the fcuk up or down in weight to get that paper or fight someone like McCallum that's got a buzz going on. ****** Marketing 101. Hagler brought on himself anf fought a ton of bums that padded his record, true story!

I met Hagler when I was 7 in 81' so yea, wrong again --- not a little kid ya dang dummy.

Kid, you're an amateur --- you're knowledge is topical. All surface repeating others, you don't know jack siht.

Hagler is one of the most overrated boxers of all time.

For sure!

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Only reason I keep bringing up McCallum because you keep saying he wasn't ranked like a fcuking parakeet.

Avoided by who? Give me the names cuz all your doing is regurgitating the stories put out there by Hagler himself.

Ranks don't mean siht when the division is dead. What don't you get about that?

You're like mentally disabled. When there is nobody good to fight and you ain't making siht, time to move the fcuk up or down in weight to get that paper or fight someone like McCallum that's got a buzz going on. ****** Marketing 101. Hagler brought on himself anf fought a ton of bums that padded his record, true story!

I met Hagler when I was 7 in 81' so yea, wrong again --- not a little kid ya dang dummy.

Kid, you're an amateur --- you're knowledge is topical. All surface repeating others, you don't know jack siht.



For sure!

And you keep ringing off that Hagler ducked McCallum like a parakeet. What exactly is your point? I mean, after all, YOU were the one who brought up McCallum.

Ok you obviously have minimal knowledge about Marvin Hagler lmfao. Hugo Corro, Rodrigo Valdez, etc. It's COMMON knowledge that Hagler was ducked. You can hardly find a source about Hagler that doesn't mention it.

Says who? By what standard is the division dead and what were the "glory days" of the Middleweight division? The onus is on you to prove that. Vito Antuofermo, Briscoe, Minter, Hart, Roldan, Hamsho were ALL good fighters.

What the hell are you rambling about? Hagler was making millions of dollars each fight! He had plenty of "paper".

There's a reason your red and I'm not LMFAO!!!

[garfios]

I will go to my grave remembering Hagler as a great middleweight. You can always hand pick one fight to discredit a great fighter. Duran gave him a harder fight than expected but Hagler would have beaten him easier in a rematch. If you want to make Duran look bad hand pick his fight with Hearns. If you want to make Leonard look bad hand pick his KO loss to Camacho. If you want to make Sugar Ray Robinson look bad hand pick his loss to unranked Ralph Jones. Hagler only needed 3 rounds to beat Hearns and I thought he beat Leonard as did about half the fans who saw the fight. There was a reason Leonard refused to give Hagler a rematch. Hagler was deadly in rematches. He had a few rematches and he always won them much quicker and easier than the first fight.Hagler had a lot of wear and tear on him by the time he fought Leonard because Hagler was a real fighting champion. He went to war against all the very best middleweights 4 times a year. What champion other than Hagler defends their title 4 times a year against the best and highest ranked challengers? Nobody. Hagler was a special champion and a great warrior who gave all the top contenders a shot at his title.

Agreed, and someone mention that miranda would have knock him out, well there was another miranda back then, his name was obelmejias and hagler took his head off. Martillo roldan, mugabi, by the way hearns went all the way up to lhw and was knocking out ppl at that weight too. If Hagler were fighting today not ggg, ginger or any other mw would be too happy to fight him.

[garfios]

Only reason I keep bringing up McCallum because you keep saying he wasn't ranked like a fcuking parakeet.

Avoided by who? Give me the names cuz all your doing is regurgitating the stories put out there by Hagler himself.

Ranks don't mean siht when the division is dead. What don't you get about that?

You're like mentally disabled. When there is nobody good to fight and you ain't making siht, time to move the fcuk up or down in weight to get that paper or fight someone like McCallum that's got a buzz going on. ****** Marketing 101. Hagler brought on himself anf fought a ton of bums that padded his record, true story!

I met Hagler when I was 7 in 81' so yea, wrong again --- not a little kid ya dang dummy.

Kid, you're an amateur --- you're knowledge is topical. All surface repeating others, you don't know jack siht.



For sure!

back then there's was no ducking. The best fought the best...

[garfios]

I have being following boxing since the 60's, never heard Hagler ducking mcallum, actually the Jamaican never mentioned Hagler while he was active, And I knew mcallum when he was an amateur, he loss to Andres Aldama 4 times, 3 by KO. A shame the Cuban never turn pro.

[Vadrigar.]

Not that good and reminds me a lot of Winky Wright.

Think about it...

Haglers best win, Hearns...a guy that was way out of his weight (SSM). If Hearns was a natural Middleweight, Hagler would have been out like a light. Didn't Hearns have a weight issue for that fight anyway?

Duran started at what, 124? Hagler was losing going into the 13th. Barely won!

SRL, legit beat Hagler. Kinda of reminds me of how Williams did Winky. I've seen that fight 20x and being a New Englander I thought Hagler won until I got older and started competing. Once I knew how to score, Hagler loses every time.

Mugabi? Green, who cares!

The rest of those Hamsho type cats, nobody cares.

McCallum, I know he wasn't a mid but he sure as *****t would have met the weight and had a great shot.

Facts: Hagler just wasn't that good against guys his own size.

He never came back cuz he knew the jig was up.

Lowest ring IQ of the fab 4 that's for sure.

[Vadrigar.]

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GGG would knock Hagler out within 6.

He couldn't even knockout a glass chinned cancer patient.

[HeadShots]

He couldn't even knockout a glass chinned cancer patient.

Hagler lost to welterweights.

[Hatesrats]

[McNulty]

And you keep ringing off that Hagler ducked McCallum like a parakeet. What exactly is your point? I mean, after all, YOU were the one who brought up McCallum.

Ok you obviously have minimal knowledge about Marvin Hagler lmfao. Hugo Corro, Rodrigo Valdez, etc. It's COMMON knowledge that Hagler was ducked. You can hardly find a source about Hagler that doesn't mention it.

Says who? By what standard is the division dead and what were the "glory days" of the Middleweight division? The onus is on you to prove that. Vito Antuofermo, Briscoe, Minter, Hart, Roldan, Hamsho were ALL good fighters.

What the hell are you rambling about? Hagler was making millions of dollars each fight! He had plenty of "paper".

There's a reason your red and I'm not LMFAO!!!

I told you my point you dang dummy. Have you been shot in the head? Because Hagler was fighting tons of scrubs and he wasn't making millions fighting scrubs.

If one can hardly not find a source, why aren't you fcuking posting them you twit? The middleweight division was shiht because I say it was.

Scypion was a bum, losing to Leroy Lester right after Hagler who was 10-3 for fcuks sake.

Hamsho, bum that lost to Lalonde --- I mean you can't make this stuff up!

Lee, bumskeet lol.

Sibson, a UK bum that only fought bums inside the UK.

Roldan, small (5'8") Argentinean bum that fought in Argentina 95% of his fights against no names and when he stepped up he always got smashed the fcuk down. BUM!

Minter, UK bum. Only guys he beat (Griffith) was at the end of his career, literally last fight.

Antuofermo was the size of a small welterweight (5'7" @ 69") and looked like he was on juice --- mad zits all over his shoulders and back and the only real names besides Hagler he fought was Minter (bum) and Briscoe (another bum). Vito was a bum!

Look at him fight, he looks like an novice class amateur --- club fighter at best fighting at the dog track. Try putting in this query in on YouTube and see how many hits you get: Antuofermo Highlights. ZERO FCUKING HITS. I wonder why? Maybe he was a bum? If you think Vito was anything, you're a lunatic.

If you took every fight you've seen and multiplied it by 100 you've probably still seen a few thousand less fights than I have.

When Hagler was padding his record he wasn't making jack and didn't make million dollar purses until he fought Hamsho in 81' (Hagler was at 52-2 then) --- lets not forget he retired a few years later so like a fcuking said he didn't make jack for most of his career. Especially during the "avoided" years.

I love being red, that means I know what I'm talking about cuz the board is filled with 95% dummies. There has been a lot of pro's and champions that have come through here and they get called idiots and don't know what they're talking about.