Hagler: Not That Good

[McNulty]

read it and weep...67 fights...62 wins 3 losses 2 draws....all losses and draws avenged except for srl and srl ain't want it again truth be told...arguably the greatest mw of all time...high rank atg...one of the greatest chins in the history of the sport...he didn't just beat guys...he ran through them...retired on top and never even contemplated making a comeback and making a mockery of the sport by becoming a sideshow...show the proper respect

Not that good. His best wins were against smaller guys and SRL tapped that a$$ after being out for three years and came up from welter. Hagler dodged McCallum who would have possibly stopped him.

In 66 fights Hagler beat everyone he ever fought.

Every guy that came up several weight classes and were out of their natural weights, he got most. Dodged McCallum and SRL whipped him.

[McNulty]

Read your post, idiot.

I did, I have no idea what you're talking about there hombre.

[djtmal]

Not that good. His best wins were against smaller guys and SRL tapped that a$$ after being out for three years and came up from welter. Hagler dodged McCallum who would have possibly stopped him.



Every guy that came up several weight classes and were out of their natural weights, he got most. Dodged McCallum and SRL whipped him.

C'mon man you buggin' out. Hagler ko'd tons of real good natural mw's for years on the way up before he even got some shine.
Hearns, Duran, & Sugar are all-time greats at any weight and Hagler went 2-1 against those guys, and where you get Sugar Ray, tapping Hagler's a** and whipping him is a mystery. Against a faded Hagler, Sugar still boxed smart, and selectively exchanged, which is what he had to do to get a decision on the scorecards. You acting like Sugar went head up with Hagler and it was a whitewash, he never even came close to stunning Hagler, and it certainly was a close fight on the cards. No shame at all in that, and everybody is still split on who really won.

[McNulty]

C'mon man you buggin' out. Hagler ko'd tons of real good natural mw's for years on the way up before he even got some shine.
Hearns, Duran, & Sugar are all-time greats at any weight and Hagler went 2-1 against those guys, and where you get Sugar Ray, tapping Hagler's a** and whipping him is a mystery. Against a faded Hagler, Sugar still boxed smart, and selectively exchanged, which is what he had to do to get a decision on the scorecards. You acting like Sugar went head up with Hagler and it was a whitewash, he never even came close to stunning Hagler, and it certainly was a close fight on the cards. No shame at all in that, and everybody is still split on who really won.

Mediocre middleweights perhaps. Leonard exchanged in the pocket quite a bit and bounced combinations off his dome piece --- that is heads up and he did actually stun Hagler at one point making him skip a step off balance.

Whoever is split is a fanboy, Hagler lost straight up.

[djtmal]

Mediocre middleweights perhaps. Leonard exchanged in the pocket quite a bit and bounced combinations off his dome piece --- that is heads up and he did actually stun Hagler at one point making him skip a step off balance.

Whoever is split is a fanboy, Hagler lost straight up.

Whatever man....

Refer back to my first post on this and get back at me when the liquor and pills wear off

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Every guy that came up several weight classes and were out of their natural weights, he got most. Dodged McCallum and SRL whipped him.

Duran, Hearns and Leonard were the only ones that came up several divisions. Get the facts right.

McCallum wasn't even rated at Middleweight until AFTER Hagler retired. I bet you got the idea that Hagler ducked him from the interview on youtube.

[McNulty]

Duran, Hearns and Leonard were the only ones that came up several divisions. Get the facts right.

McCallum wasn't even rated at Middleweight until AFTER Hagler retired. I bet you got the idea that Hagler ducked him from the interview on youtube.

SRL wasn't rated at MW either but he came up after 3 years out to tap that a$$.

Duran, Hearns, and Leonard --- remove those names and Hagler is just another Joe Calzaghe.

But wait there is always Caveman Lee and Reggie Ford who was 0-1 who fought Hagler when he was 31-2. Don't forget about Jim Henry who was 11-26-3 when he fought Marvin @ 35-2.

Hagler = padded record"peeleft:

[MindGame]

I will go to my grave remembering Hagler as a great middleweight. You can always hand pick one fight to discredit a great fighter. Duran gave him a harder fight than expected but Hagler would have beaten him easier in a rematch. If you want to make Duran look bad hand pick his fight with Hearns. If you want to make Leonard look bad hand pick his KO loss to Camacho. If you want to make Sugar Ray Robinson look bad hand pick his loss to unranked Ralph Jones. Hagler only needed 3 rounds to beat Hearns and I thought he beat Leonard as did about half the fans who saw the fight. There was a reason Leonard refused to give Hagler a rematch. Hagler was deadly in rematches. He had a few rematches and he always won them much quicker and easier than the first fight.Hagler had a lot of wear and tear on him by the time he fought Leonard because Hagler was a real fighting champion. He went to war against all the very best middleweights 4 times a year. What champion other than Hagler defends their title 4 times a year against the best and highest ranked challengers? Nobody. Hagler was a special champion and a great warrior who gave all the top contenders a shot at his title.

This sums up my opinion of Marvelous Marvin as well...

[Mr.MojoRisin']

SRL wasn't rated at MW either but he came up after 3 years out to tap that a$$.

Duran, Hearns, and Leonard --- remove those names and Hagler is just another Joe Calzaghe.

But wait there is always Caveman Lee and Reggie Ford who was 0-1 who fought Hagler when he was 31-2. Don't forget about Jim Henry who was 11-26-3 when he fought Marvin @ 35-2.

Hagler = padded record"peeleft:

That's because Sugar Ray Leonard was a super fight. McCallum wasn't even close.

No, he's a champ who utterly dominated the Middleweight division. Nobody uses the Duran and Leonard fights to show how great Hagler was. The Hearns fight is only shown to demonstrate Hagler's ability to take a punch. Something undeniable. Hearns devastatingly knocked Duran and plenty other guys out below and above the MW division.

Yeah and don't forget Bennie Briscoe, Alan Minter, Vito Antuofermo, Willie Monroe, Sugar Ray Seales, John Mugabi, Juan Roldan, Fulgencio Obelmejias, Eugene Hart, Bobby Watts, etc.

You refuse to use logic therefore you come to the wrong conclusion as usual.

[McNulty]

That's because Sugar Ray Leonard was a super fight. McCallum wasn't even close.

No, he's a champ who utterly dominated the Middleweight division. Nobody uses the Duran and Leonard fights to show how great Hagler was. The Hearns fight is only shown to demonstrate Hagler's ability to take a punch. Something undeniable. Hearns devastatingly knocked Duran and plenty other guys out below and above the MW division.

Yeah and don't forget Bennie Briscoe, Alan Minter, Vito Antuofermo, Willie Monroe, Sugar Ray Seales, John Mugabi, Juan Roldan, Fulgencio Obelmejias, Eugene Hart, Bobby Watts, etc.

You refuse to use logic therefore you come to the wrong conclusion as usual.

McCallum was a better fight than 95% of Haglers padded record!!! McCallum was doing good work with Hearns at Kronk. Definitely worthy!

Hearns had no power @ Middleweight because he was a natural Welter dummy! Hearns had Marvin hurt too so lets drop that siht amigo.

Hagler dominated a dead division just like Bernard and Calzaghe did.

Hearns knocked Duran out after Duran fought at Middleweight (Hagler) and went back down to Welterweight which is a total death sentence (learn boxing history!) and had problems with weight so cancel that out of your lame a$$ argument.

Briscoe, Minter, Antuofermo, Monroe, Seales, Mugabi, Roldan, Obelmejias, Hart, Watts are B-Level fighters --- whats your point?