Hagler: Not That Good

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  • sugar ray lenrd
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    #31
    Originally posted by Johnny Steele
    He only fought smaller guys if he was certain he could win hahaha.
    He was scared to death of Mccallum.



    Hagler is a racist, a bully and a coward.
    He was lucky to be around in an era of middleweight bums else he would have been put to sleep by a "real g".
    Son,
    McCallum never stepped up to Hagler. Hagler would've whip dat Arse!!!

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      #32
      Originally posted by sugar ray lenrd
      And that's it??? Who else did he beat that's worth mentioning? Why is McNulty discrediting Hagler as a middle wgt? Will it be right to start discrediting Hopkins with his wins as a Middlewgt over Trinidad & DeLa Hoya? I don't think so. And for all those who critisize Hagler for not moving up in wgt to challenge a heavier fighter, remember back then there was no super middlewgt division (168 LBS). It was straightup from middlewgt (160 lbs) to lightheavywgt (175 lbs). That's 15 pounds son! And anyone that ever laced up some gloves will tell ya 15 pounds is a lot.
      And guess who was at 175. Spinks.
      There was no chance of Hagler beating Spinks. Hagler was a great great middleweight champion but he wasn't a big middleweight. Hagler=ATG..

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      • Johnny Steele
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        #33
        Originally posted by sugar ray lenrd
        Son,
        McCallum never stepped up to Hagler. Hagler would've whip dat Arse!!!
        Hahaha! What?

        Go learn some history you racist coward.
        Hagler was shook.

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        • Johnny Steele
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          #34
          Originally posted by TonyGe
          And guess who was at 175. Spinks.
          There was no chance of Hagler beating Spinks.
          There is no chance of Hagler even lasting a round against Spinks.
          Hagler lacked courage.


          Originally posted by TonyGe
          Hagler was a great great middleweight.
          Even this is debatable.

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          • HeadShots
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            #35
            Hagler didn't get robbed. When it's a close fight with 10-8 rounds then it's not a robbery.


            his entire legacy is built around going 1-1-1 against welterweights.


            GGG would knock Hagler out within 6.

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            • sugar ray lenrd
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              #36
              Originally posted by Johnny Steele
              Hahaha. You're arguement only proves Hagler was a b1tch.

              Duran moved up more than fifteen pounds when he faced hagler.

              Bummy hearns and ray leonard also moved up vast amounts of weight throught their career. Did they not?

              Hagler was a bully and a coward.
              No, My arguements proved otherwise How the hell is he going to move up in wgt like that abruptly 15 lbs?! Your wrong son, Duran didn't moved up abruptly 15 pounds, he was a former Jr middlewgt champ (154 lbs). Last time I checked that's only 6 pounds to middlewgt (160 lbs)

              And yes Hearns & I moved up in wgt throught our careers, but we did it gradually. In hagler's case he couldn't because at that time there wasn't a super middlewgt division (168 lbs). Not Duran, Hearns, nor I, moved up in wgt abruptly 15 lbs to fight hagler...it was done gradually.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Johnny Steele
                Hahaha! What?

                Go learn some history you racist coward.
                Hagler was shook.
                Rascist???????...????
                You must be one to come out like that, I'm a racist because i'm proving how good Hagler was???...???

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Johnny Steele
                  There is no chance of Hagler even lasting a round against Spinks.
                  Hagler lacked courage.




                  Even this is debatable.
                  Now I agree with you here Spinks would've beaten Hagler. But i'm sure hagler would've given him a good fight. I still think spinks was just too big & would've eventually stopped him via TKO. Spinks is the best LightHeavywgt!

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                  • A-Wolf
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by McNulty
                    Dude, SRL was out of the game for 3 years and still got a clear win!!!

                    Hagler in rematches vs who...Antuofermo or Hamsho? Come on man, fcuk those dudes!

                    Hagler had to fight 4x/year cuz he was fighting **** fighters for **** pay and blamed The Man when he should have blamed himself. How come he never moved up like ALL the greats did?

                    Caveman Lee, yea that guy was the BEST!

                    If Hagler didn't QUIT, SRL would have 118-110'd him in a rematch. Hagler gave up the first half of the fight like a b1!tch. SRL was the better man and clearly won the fight.



                    Pro's ain;t the amateurs kid. I'll score body shots if they do damage or are overwhelming, truth is SRL did body work too and whatever Hagler threw at him SRL came back with COMBINATION punching. Hagler's power had ZERO effect on Ray.
                    So you openly admit you'll selectively score body punches or not at all?

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                    • bender2000
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                      #40
                      your crazy , hagler was an atg a great great natural middleweight he was damn good before he won the title fighting the philly wars with Briscoe etc they were tough dudes , he should have got his title shots years earlier.

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