Comments Thread For: Bob Arum: Blame Me if Pacquiao-Horn Isn't a Competitive Fight!

[ironmt]

Exactly. It's mostly because Pacquiao and May are in the recent Era. But of we dissect the resumes of the likes of SRL, we can easily procliam that "He drained Duran, ducked Hagler for how many years, and chosing gloves, ring size etc. etc."

Yes sir, It seems for whatever reason, Pacquiao gets the most $h!t for fighting catch weights when It has been going on forever.

You would think that a guy that started his career at light flyweight(106lbs) would get the least amount of criticism.

For any other fighter It would be an amazing feat to start at 106lbs and make your way up to the super welterweight division(154lbs), but because It's Pacquiao, the accomplishment needs to be down played and minimized.

[bluzi]

**** fight no doubt but to see the haters jump on this and start saying dumb things about Pac career is just absurd , this fight is not indicative of Pac career , the same as Berto and McG are not for Floyd , Pac is an ATG and nothing that he does on the backend of his career is going to change it , you guys need to go back and rewatch his fights in his prime , one of the best offensive fighters to ever grace a boxing ring , why would you guys try and argue that ? calling him a cheery picker ? is this what we come to ? go look on mister Thurman resume and compare it to Pac on the same age , the guy fought them all and in back 2 back fights , today fighters are doing 5 easy fights 1 hard fight and one elite fight once in a decade.
so much hate for nothing ..... jeez

[A-Wolf]

Is today yesterday? I think so.

[pasawayako]

mayweather just beat canelo and manny recently also mate..... mayweather also beat almost 2 dozen champions mate!

Pac is 8 division champion and a fighter of a decade. and floyd is only 5 division champion and a NOMINEE fighter of the decade.

[pasawayako]

Pac ia the only fighter to become 8 division champion and no other boxer will ever achieve that unless he's a super super special fighter like pac.

[Reloaded]

As far as catch weights are concerned, that argument falls flat. Many great past and present greats have asked for catch weight fights. How many of those greats on Pacquiao's resume were coming off of a loss

Name one other current fighter who has fought the caliber of a Morales, Barrera and Marquez all In a row, other than having a fight with Solis between Morales and Barrera.

The guys resume cannot be questioned.

Larrios was off loss
Barrera was off a loss.
Twice Morales was of a losses.
Hatton was stopped within 2 fights
Cotto 2 easy fights from a career ending beating.
Clottey from loss.
Margo 1 BS fight from KO loss.
Mosley from loss and draw .
Algieri from a gift.
Rios from a loss.
Vargas one from loss.


But you believe what ever you like its been done to death I don't really care to go through it all again, just the names on face value don't tell the whole story.

[aboutfkntime]

you just gotta watch, listen, and read between the lines.....

I said this just a few days ago, and most Pac fans have never even heard of Goodman or Trampler

so.....

so, THIS fight was not selected by Trampler/Goodman ?

really ?

now, why would Arum come out and say that..... ?????

oh, right..... because Pacquiao's other opponents WERE indeed selected by Trampler/Goodman, mostly Trampler

when it became obvious to Arum/Trampler back in Dec 2009 that Mayweather would never relinquish his testing demands..... it became just as obvious to those guys that Mayweather would have to be Pacquiao's last fight, or very close to it.,.... because the bubble would burst and the manny-cow would run dry

they were more than happy to risk throwing the 1200+ punch swarmer version of Pacquiao in there with Mayweather, the version who fought Clottey instead..... but the normal 500-600 boxer-puncher version of Pacquiao who would have fought Mayweather had he agreed to the testing, had very little chance of beating Mayweather over 12 rounds

#styles

those guys are the best in the business

THAT is why Arum faked a negotiation in order to obtain funding and a date for the Margarito fight after Pac fought Clottey..... then came the "cold war" that Arum conveniently manufactured from that failed "negotiation"..... giving further justification for the delay

for proof..... there is NO reason to refuse random blood tests if a fighter is clean..... ands Pacquiao's ridiculous excuses disappeared overnight..... those 8 excuses were never mentioned once since May/Pac spoke at that knicks game

Arum fk'd everyone over back in 2010, mostly Schaeffer and Greenberg, but he also fk'd over a TON of gullible fans..... and they were PACQUIAO fans LMAO

Bro, you're taking these mutha****as to school!

I should have added this bit on the end.....

Arum/Trampler know why Pac threw 1200+ punches at Clottey

when it became obvious to those guys back in December 2009 that Mayweather would never relinquish his testing demands..... it became obvious to those guys that Mayweather would only fight the normal 500-600 punch version of Pacquiao

so, they waited..... milked the cow for everything they could..... and then cashed out with Mayweather when Pac's numbers/popularity/opponents dried up

#boxing101

those guys are the best in the business, still

insiders knew, the others saw what they wanted to see

[aboutfkntime]

Easy to throw 1200 punches when they guy in front of you is just shelling up and barely throwing back...Volume punchers dont last long in this sport due to wear and tear and age so you either adapt or fall apart. Bob didn't predict anything & if he could he woulda never made Marquez 4 which almost completely fxcked his cash cows chances of landing that Mayweather fight, hell no 1 even knew if Manny could ever come back from that....Not everything is a conspiracy

no, it really isn't..... that is nonsense

[aboutfkntime]

The names on it are great /

The match making has been brilliant, if you dissect every fight from 140 on and look closely at weight , opponent timing and form, opponents close to career worst defeats etc , then you will understand how well Manny has been matched, its still continuing.

yep..... it is about timing, and weight..... and, it is also about the REAL reason why Team Pacquiao killed that super-fight over - OF ALL THINGS - random blood tests..... which is unheard of, and inexplicable

..... and then those 8 ridiculous reasons suddenly disappeared, just as miraculously as they appeared back in 2010

1200+ punches, looking fresh as a daisy..... ?

GTFOH

not saying that Pac aint a helluva fighter, he is top notch

[ironmt]

Larrios was off loss
Barrera was off a loss.
Twice Morales was of a losses.
Hatton was stopped within 2 fights
Cotto 2 easy fights from a career ending beating.
Clottey from loss.
Margo 1 BS fight from KO loss.
Mosley from loss and draw .
Algieri from a gift.
Rios from a loss.
Vargas one from loss.


But you believe what ever you like its been done to death I don't really care to go through it all again, just the names on face value don't tell the whole story.

I asked you how many of these fighters suffered losses right before they fought Pacquiao and In some of your examples you are giving me losses that happened a couple fights prior.

I find It Interesting that you happened to use the second Barrera fight to make your point, what about the first Barrera fight?

You have an agenda and that Is all this Is.

Just remember, other top fighters have also fought guys that come off of losses a fight or two prior.