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  • #21
    Originally posted by Dr_Calvin View Post
    I will be interested to see what the actual attendance for this will be. There are still thousands of tickets available with prices as low of AUD$35/USD$25. I work in Brisbane and there is not exactly a buzz about the fight. I only know 2 people who are going.
    Sounds terrible.

    I hate how things have turned out for Manny. Yes, he's no Mayweather, but he's still an all-time great fighter. Arum is going to get every bit of cash out of him possible, then feed him to Crawford or Loma for a vicious KO. It's so clear what's going on.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by ConRaffery View Post
      I still blame Arum because its not like he is cherry picking outside of Top Rank, everyone of his opponents (dating back for ages now) except probably floyd has been the choice which is in Arum's best interest.

      I never understood why back around 2010-2013 he didn't leave Top Rank and adopt the Floyd model of promoting himself. He was a big enough name back then to pull it off successfully. I could be wrong but I reckon Arum has dirt on him and that's why he could never leave.

      Arum/Trampler know why Pac threw 1200+ punches at Clottey

      when it became obvious to those guys back in December 2009 that Mayweather would neve relinquish his testing demands..... it became obvious to those guys that Mayweather would only fight the normal 500-600 punch version of Pacquiao

      so, they waited..... milked the cow for everything they could..... and then cashed out with Mayweather when Pac's numbers/popularity/opponents dried up

      #boxing101

      those guys are the best in the business, still

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      • #23
        The fact that Spence and Thurman and Brook and Garcia were in high profile top welterweight fights recently and a superstar like Pac was hiding behind a fence is NOT A GOOD LOOK! Pac can get ANY fight he wants and decides to peek through a hole in the fence. That is embarrassing! It's like a top Hollywood star playing the role of a janitor for 5 minutes in a big movie instead of taking a role that could lead to the Academy Awards! This is what Pac reduced himself to. If he and Arum do not demand a fight with Thurman or Spence then Pac needs to retire. Sht or get off the pot!
        Last edited by richardt; 06-27-2017, 10:36 PM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by richardt View Post
          The fact that Spence and Thurman and Brook and Garcia were in high profile top welterweight fights recently and a superstar like Pac was hiding behind a fence is NOT A GOOD LOOK!!! Pac, a fighter who could get ANY fight he wants decides to peek through a hole in the fence is embarrassing! This is like a top Hollywood star playing the role of a janitor for 5 minutes in a big movie instead of a role that could lead to the Academy Awards! This is what Pac reduced himself to. If he and Arum do not demand a fight with Thurman or Spence then Pac needs to retire. Sht or get off the pot!
          Manny doesn't owe you s*** at 40 years of age he can fight who he wants! In his prime he fought them all and it wasn't enough then either. You are a hater admit it! This is going to be a HUGE event believe me, Horn deserves his chance he is the highest ranked fighter with the WBO at 147.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by richardt View Post
            The fact that Spence and Thurman and Brook and Garcia were in high profile top welterweight fights recently and a superstar like Pac was hiding behind a fence is NOT A GOOD LOOK!!! Pac, a fighter who could get ANY fight he wants decides to peek through a hole in the fence is embarrassing! This is like a top Hollywood star playing the role of a janitor for 5 minutes in a big movie instead of a role that could lead to the Academy Awards! This is what Pac reduced himself to. If he and Arum do not demand a fight with Thurman or Spence then Pac needs to retire. Sht or get off the pot!
            I don't even care if he retires of not. In my opinion he has earned the right to cash out and if people are still willing to pay to watch him fight nobodies well then good luck to him but I don't think he has the right to do it while holding a title hostage. He needs to give up the title and then it's fair game - watch if you want, don't watch if you don't want.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Butch.McRae View Post
              Sounds terrible.

              I hate how things have turned out for Manny. Yes, he's no Mayweather, but he's still an all-time great fighter. Arum is going to get every bit of cash out of him possible, then feed him to Crawford or Loma for a vicious KO. It's so clear what's going on.
              Let me correct old mate there, my friend as in Brisbane yesterday and said city was 'buzzing' with anticipation. There are signs on every street corner, pubs nationwide will be alive with excitement. This could generate 300,000 buys in Australia alone. Arum has done great business here bravo to TR don't miss this fight.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by robbyheartbaby View Post
                Manny doesn't owe you s*** at 40 years of age he can fight who he wants! In his prime he fought them all and it wasn't enough then either. You are a hater admit it! This is going to be a HUGE event believe me, Horn deserves his chance he is the highest ranked fighter with the WBO at 147.
                Who has he beat to earn his shot? The WBO rankings are so diluted in that alphabet soup. I could name a heap of guys that deserve a shot over him and if it wasn't for boxing's bull**** politics they would be getting it before him.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by robbyheartbaby View Post
                  Manny doesn't owe you s*** at 40 years of age he can fight who he wants! In his prime he fought them all and it wasn't enough then either. You are a hater admit it! This is going to be a HUGE event believe me, Horn deserves his chance he is the highest ranked fighter with the WBO at 147.
                  Since you are an infant to these boards, sorry to bust your misconception but ask anyone how many years I have supported Pac. Hint: Over 6 years. I do not support a fighter who is not willing to fight the best! "HUGE event"? To a local fighter in his locale maybe but no one on the world scene calls Pac vs an UNKNOWN a huge event! a HUGE event is a HUGE fight and that is Pac vs Thurman or Spence, not Pac vs an UNKNOWN fighter that even Pac had to ask who he was, TWICE! Stop embarrassing yourself.
                  Last edited by richardt; 06-27-2017, 10:53 PM.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                    you just gotta watch, listen, and read between the lines.....

                    I said this just a few days ago, and most Pac fans have never even heard of Goodman or Trampler

                    so.....

                    so, THIS fight was not selected by Trampler/Goodman ?

                    really ?

                    now, why would Arum come out and say that..... ?????

                    oh, right..... because Pacquiao's other opponents WERE indeed selected by Trampler/Goodman, mostly Trampler

                    when it became obvious to Arum/Trampler back in Dec 2009 that Mayweather would never relinquish his testing demands..... it became just as obvious to those guys that Mayweather would have to be Pacquiao's last fight, or very close to it.,.... because the bubble would burst and the manny-cow would run dry

                    they were more than happy to risk throwing the 1200+ punch swarmer version of Pacquiao in there with Mayweather, the version who fought Clottey instead..... but the normal 500-600 boxer-puncher version of Pacquiao who would have fought Mayweather had he agreed to the testing, had very little chance of beating Mayweather over 12 rounds

                    #styles

                    those guys are the best in the business

                    THAT is why Arum faked a negotiation in order to obtain funding and a date for the Margarito fight after Pac fought Clottey..... then came the "cold war" that Arum conveniently manufactured from that failed "negotiation"..... giving further justification for the delay

                    for proof..... there is NO reason to refuse random blood tests if a fighter is clean..... ands Pacquiao's ridiculous excuses disappeared overnight..... those 8 excuses were never mentioned once since May/Pac spoke at that knicks game

                    Arum fk'd everyone over back in 2010, mostly Schaeffer and Greenberg, but he also fk'd over a TON of gullible fans..... and they were PACQUIAO fans LMAO
                    Bro, you're taking these mutha****as to school!

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Butch.McRae View Post
                      Sounds terrible.

                      I hate how things have turned out for Manny. Yes, he's no Mayweather, but he's still an all-time great fighter. Arum is going to get every bit of cash out of him possible, then feed him to Crawford or Loma for a vicious KO. It's so clear what's going on.
                      you HATE how things have turned out for Manny.. He whooped Bradley last year then won the WBO welterweight championship again, he is making big money against Horn and you feel sorry for him? He is still the man! Enjoy the fight bro ENJOY!

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