Comments Thread For: Bob Arum: Blame Me if Pacquiao-Horn Isn't a Competitive Fight!

[ironmt]

Pretty hard to bash Bob for this fight considering we are not paying for It. It will be just like Friday night fights, only on Saturday

[ironmt]

Good money for a walk in the park cant blame them.

Arum and Manny both know its safer to fight Horn for lower money and win, than to fight TC Thurman Spence and lose. Arum has done this very same sht all the way with Manny, the moment Manny went to 140 the shenanigans started, and the shenanigans have always been in the match making of Manny.

Nothing new here with Arum and Team Pac.

Manny Pacquiao's resume Is right on par with the best fighters to have ever entered a boxing ring, along with HOF credentials.

If you are questioning his resume, then you have an agenda.

[Bronx23]

I blame Arum for a lot but this is on Team Pacquiao. He's not some unknown avoided fighter. He easily could have gotten a fight that was tolerable. He and his team took the fight so screw them.

Well to be fair I think team Pacquiao didn't want this fight either. If u remember they did try to go behind the Bob father's back and make a deal with Amir Khan & when that fell through, Australia pulled out that $10 million gurantee for Manny & I'm sure that's what ultimately made them come around.

What would you do? Take 10 million for an easier fight that you could win and look good in to secure a better future purse, or take the peanuts Bobs been feeding Manny for his last 2 fights against a tougher opponent? Either way it's a **** position to be in.

[Bronx23]

Arum/Trampler know why Pac threw 1200+ punches at Clottey

when it became obvious to those guys back in December 2009 that Mayweather would neve relinquish his testing demands..... it became obvious to those guys that Mayweather would only fight the normal 500-600 punch version of Pacquiao

so, they waited..... milked the cow for everything they could..... and then cashed out with Mayweather when Pac's numbers/popularity/opponents dried up

#boxing101

those guys are the best in the business, still

Easy to throw 1200 punches when they guy in front of you is just shelling up and barely throwing back...Volume punchers dont last long in this sport due to wear and tear and age so you either adapt or fall apart. Bob didn't predict anything & if he could he woulda never made Marquez 4 which almost completely fxcked his cash cows chances of landing that Mayweather fight, hell no 1 even knew if Manny could ever come back from that....Not everything is a conspiracy

[Reloaded]

Manny Pacquiao's resume Is right on par with the best fighters to have ever entered a boxing ring, along with HOF credentials.

If you are questioning his resume, then you have an agenda.

The names on it are great /

The match making has been brilliant, if you dissect every fight from 140 on and look closely at weight , opponent timing and form, opponents close to career worst defeats etc , then you will understand how well Manny has been matched, its still continuing.

[Bronx23]

I still blame Arum because its not like he is cherry picking outside of Top Rank, everyone of his opponents (dating back for ages now) except probably floyd has been the choice which is in Arum's best interest.

I never understood why back around 2010-2013 he didn't leave Top Rank and adopt the Floyd model of promoting himself. He was a big enough name back then to pull it off successfully. I could be wrong but I reckon Arum has dirt on him and that's why he could never leave.

Not every fighter has the ability or the desire to go that route. My guess is he's not that type of guy. He does absolutely nothing in terms of promoting any of his fights,ever. He trains, entertains & then collects his checks. Not to mention back then he was getting those $20 million guaranteed purses and all those endorsements so he probly didn't feel the need to change the formula that was working for him.

But I agree that he could have or should have left Bob a long time ago. He's still an international star with enough power to fight with out a promoter. With all the extra responsibilities and **** maybe he just doesn't care to be bothered with adding more to his plate who knows. Hard to speculate from the outside looking in.

[ironmt]

As far as catch weights are concerned, that argument falls flat. Many great past and present greats have asked for catch weight fights. How many of those greats on Pacquiao's resume were coming off of a loss

Name one other current fighter who has fought the caliber of a Morales, Barrera and Marquez all In a row, other than having a fight with Solis between Morales and Barrera.

The guys resume cannot be questioned.

[ConRaffery]

Not every fighter has the ability or the desire to go that route. My guess is he's not that type of guy. He does absolutely nothing in terms of promoting any of his fights,ever. He trains, entertains & then collects his checks. Not to mention back then he was getting those $20 million guaranteed purses and all those endorsements so he probly didn't feel the need to change the formula that was working for him.

But I agree that he could have or should have left Bob a long time ago. He's still an international star with enough power to fight with out a promoter. With all the extra responsibilities and **** maybe he just doesn't care to be bothered with adding more to his plate who knows. Hard to speculate from the outside looking in.

I can see how you interpreted my comment and that's my fault because of how I wrote it.

I wasn't really getting at pac becoming floyd because I agree it takes a certain type of personality to be able to do that and do it effectively. I was more getting at cutting out the middleman so Arum wasn't in the picture any more. He obviously still would have needed a promotional team but it would have been his own promotional team where he is just paying wages instead of the ridiculous 25% of the purse fee or whatever it is.

(Obviously going to be more expenses than just wages but I think you know what I mean)

[Thraxox]

As far as catch weights are concerned, that argument falls flat. Many great past and present greats have asked for catch weight fights. How many of those greats on Pacquiao's resume were coming off of a loss

Name one other current fighter who has fought the caliber of a Morales, Barrera and Marquez all In a row, other than having a fight with Solis between Morales and Barrera.

The guys resume cannot be questioned.

Exactly. It's mostly because Pacquiao and May are in the recent Era. But of we dissect the resumes of the likes of SRL, we can easily procliam that "He drained Duran, ducked Hagler for how many years, and chosing gloves, ring size etc. etc."

[Elotero]

Refused testing for a reason son. Foh