Wilder has lost a fan

[Earl-Hickey]

Tell them hoes...

NOBODY is calling Wilder's name....and that suites the haters fine.

They bunch together to create an online reality that suits their false narrative.

Joshua won't even BREATHE Wilder's name

He knows his slow ass gets baptized.

Whyte is

Luis Ortiz is

i'm sure there's plenty more.

Why not fight Luis Ortiz? That'd get him some respect.

I mean from your point of view, considering the state of the division with mandatories etc, if you are managing wilder what fights do you target next?

[Eff Pandas]

Why not fight ortiz or pulev? **** might as well even offer bryant jennings a fight. Any of those guys is a solid opponent and ortiz and pulev could even be dangerous fights depending how they go.

He will fight none of them though is my bet, just watch, his next fight will be another unkown unranked guy that he fights in alabama. Rinse and repeat.

Pulev is likely waiting on Joshua. And maybe he will fight Ortiz next we don't even know yet.

Mainly I was calling bs on the TS calling himself a lost fan then defending Wilder since we don't even know what he's doing next except exploring options at this point and the fact Haymon signed Ortiz suggest he's on the shortlist for Wilder and that's a fight I wouldn't be surprised to see on the Floyd vs Conor undercard.

[original zero]

I've never seen a heavyweight this protected..EVER.

WAS artur Spillka his best win??

if wilder was so protected, why didn't he ditch his belt & pick up an easy belt against martin instead of flying overseas to face the #1 heavyweight in the world?

and his best win is stiverne, who ring magazine had at #2 in the world when wilder beat him.

facts guys. facts. just because boxing politics are frustrating and we'd like to see wilder fight another top 5 heavyweight doesn't mean wilder is at fault and it doesn't give us the right to rewrite history.

[Mike D]

It's actually amazing when you think about it

You know how boxrec has that formula how they rate fighters? From what I've heard, it's all done by a formula, so it's not actually human opinion. It's not biased. I know it's not perfect -- nothing is, but at least it takes the human factor out of the equation which can be biased.

They rate fighters on a star system as well -- zero to five stars. And it's done in half stars.

Out of all 38 of his opponents, only TWICE has he fought a four star rated fighter (Stiverne, Szpilka). 6 times he has fought 3 star opponents, and the rest are 2 and a half and below. Out of 38 fights. That is f**king incredible

To put that into perspective, Pacquiao's 16 opponents previous to Horn (who is a 4 star) were ALL five star rated opponents. Golovkin who gets ****ted on constantly, has fought 8 five star rated opponents (including Canelo) and seven 4 star rated opponents. Danny Garcia who often gets labeled a cherry picker, has fought seven 5 star rated opponents compared to ZERO for Wilder.

Wilder's got an atrocious resume. I'm not saying dude is a bum or anything, I mean having a 38-0 record with 37 KOs against Walmart greeters is still f**king impressive, lol. But yeah, dude's opposition strength is pretty f**king laughable.

[Mike D]

Hell Lomachenko only got 9 career pro fights under his belt and he already has 3 five star rated opponents on his resume...that;s three more than Wilder has in 38 pro fights

[juggernaut666]

There's no real evidence in anything you're saying though. Maybe I'm just not snarky enough but I don't attack and criticize people without actual merit (which is what everyone is doing). The guy tried to fight Povetkin, he's shown great interest in Parker and AJ. He's even PASSING on an easy, profitable fight with Whyte (who is garbage, let's face it) in hopes to get something better.
Until someone shows me evidence of him avoiding Parker or AJ right now, it's all bullshyt.

This forum is full of shyt talkers who claim certain guys are ducking (just look at my sig) and they're usually embarrassed in the long run.

He didn't try anything ,that was his mandatory .

The Wilder anglers on here than suggest he must be brave bc he didn't give up his WBC belt ?


Sorry but you dont get credit for taking a MANDATORY fight ,thats his JOB to FIGHT ,hes the HW champion isnt he?

At the end of the day the fans have a right to mug him on here lets not pretend this is the same guy that admitted Wawrzk ( his self hand picked opponent ) was weaker than Washington thats why he originally chose him to TEST out his hand .HW champions DONT do that b.s ............he shouldn't have even been fighting an 18 fight novice with limited boxing background ,the excuse of why he didnt fight certain fighters is played out ....end of.

[juggernaut666]

if wilder was so protected, why didn't he ditch his belt & pick up an easy belt against martin instead of flying overseas to face the #1 heavyweight in the world?

and his best win is stiverne, who ring magazine had at #2 in the world when wilder beat him.

facts guys. facts. just because boxing politics are frustrating and we'd like to see wilder fight another top 5 heavyweight doesn't mean wilder is at fault and it doesn't give us the right to rewrite history.

"why didn't he ditch his belt & pick up an easy belt against martin instead of flying overseas to face the #1 heavyweight in the world? "


Yea bc thats what LEGIT HW champions do right?


On top ofthat AS I STATED TO YOU NUMEROUS times on here Martin was already contractually sighned to fight Joshua ,and Martin would take a MUCH less payday against Wilder instead of Joshua anyway right?

Had the Povetkin fight took place it would have been a month after the Martin fight .....you again are PRETENDING on here ,you dont actually know what you are talking about with your WBC beer goggles on .... you Wilder PUPPET !

[Mike D]

I will say this though in Wilder's defense: It ain't exactly like that HW division is stacked with elite opposition. It is more difficult finding high quality guys to fight at HW. That said it's pretty f**king obvious that he's a highly, HIGHLY protected fighter.

[original zero]

"why didn't he ditch his belt & pick up an easy belt against martin instead of flying overseas to face the #1 heavyweight in the world? "


Yea bc thats what LEGIT HW champions do right?

Can't have it both ways. Is he a legit champion or a coward? If he did what a legit champion does and didn't do what a coward does, then people should stop falsely accusing him of being a coward.

On top ofthat AS I STATED TO YOU NUMEROUS times on here Martin was already contractually sighned to fight Joshua

False. Martin signed to fight Joshua a month after the WBC ordered Wilder-Povetkin. Wilder & Martin have the same team and Wilder's team knew far in advance the Povetkin fight would be ordered.

The second Martin won the title, they could have set up Wilder-Martin to avoid Povetkin. They didn't. Clearly they believed Wilder would beat Povetkin. Probably for the same reasons Vegas believed it.

[juggernaut666]

Can't have it both ways. Is he a legit champion or a coward? If he did what a legit champion does and didn't do what a coward does, then people should stop falsely accusing him of being a coward.




False. Martin signed to fight Joshua a month after the WBC ordered Wilder-Povetkin. Wilder & Martin have the same team and Wilder's team knew far in advance the Povetkin fight would be ordered.

The second Martin won the title, they could have set up Wilder-Martin to avoid Povetkin. They didn't. Clearly they believed Wilder would beat Povetkin. Probably for the same reasons Vegas believed it.

What? lol are you off your meds at that first trash heep paragraph ?

And no thats NOT how boxing works just bc you THINK Martin takes a Wilder fight bc he wanted Parker first ...ooops on your part AGAIN .....He had to fight Povetkin ,sorry this is REALITY .

All you do is ramble on here , and Povetkin vs Wilder was on going before Joshua was even considered to fight Martin and WE know this bc Povetkin defeated Wach in 2015 and he went to the Wilder /Spzlka fight months before ANY Joshua champion fight was mentioned and THATS BC Povetkin WAS to fight Wilder ,No one else !



As a matter of FACT heres a ESPN side note from an article for YOU dated in JANUARY 2016 ...you like FACTS right???????? Nope ,you like idiocy !

"Sitting ringside along with Fury was a much more reserved Russian contender, Alexander Povetkin (30-1, 22 KOs), the mandatory challenger who will be the NEXT opponent for Wilder. Povetkin, a 2004 Olympic gold medalist, came to scout his next opponent, to meet the American media and to get a feel for the Barclays Center, which could host the fight in May or June. "

THIS^^^^^^^ Shows why Martin would NOT even be considered as a Wilder opponent doesnt it being its mentioned AFTER the Spzilka win the SAME night Martin won his belt yet Wilder is a hero to you bc he stayed with who he was SUPPOSED to fight ? and they knew from 2015 that Povetkin was coming up....but Wilder isnt a coward doe he kept his belt ???haha!


But keep making things up ....this is fun ,maybe ******ed dumbium will agree with you hes gullible .