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  • #51
    Originally posted by KillaCamNZ View Post
    They've done more than Wilder, so does that mean Wilder has done...sub nothing?

    I see you've already discredited Klitchko, but whether you like it or not, he was the man at Heavyweight for many years. You can't take that chunk of history out just to suit your bias.

    One win against Klitchko for those guys is more than Wilder has achieved - full stop.
    Klit didn't make history chump

    He doesn't need discrediting....Ross Purrity and a full time GOLFER did that

    Why can't they actually FIGHT Wilder instead of basking in the glow of a better resume??

    Brook did more than Spence....
    How did that work out for him?

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Kigali View Post
      Klit didn't make history chump

      He doesn't need discrediting....Ross Purrity and a full time GOLFER did that

      Why can't they actually FIGHT Wilder instead of basking in the glow of a better resume??

      Brook did more than Spence....
      How did that work out for him?
      Oh right, sorry. I forgot - only people with a 0 should be recognized as part of history.

      Dismissing what Klitchko has achieved over the years is just flat out ******. That's dumb. Don't be dumb. Be sensible.

      While you're at it, check out the current state of the HW game. You'll find that AJ has contractual obligations with Klitchko - signing a Wilder fight right now would be a legal nightmare.

      You'll also find that Parker is a few months away from his first mandatory since capturing the WBO belt.

      Wilder can go back to fighting bums for chump change in the meantime, no dramas.

      No wonder the majority call Wilder apologists a bunch of idiots - they generally are.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by -PBP- View Post
        Wilder wants to fight the best. Dillan Whyte is the same level as the bums he been fighting.

        This is why boxing fans are ******ed. Wilder fights Whyte it's another bum on his resume . Wilder doesn't fight Whyte he's a cherry picking hype job.

        **** these lames. You can never please them. Keep putting pressure on Joshua and Parker and try to achieve your dreams on becoming undisputed champ.
        Then you also gotta look at it from a fan's viewpoint. The way I see it is that Wilder is actively refusing a tuneup fight to keep him in shape for any of the other champions who he definitely can't get right now and giving up a lot of money in the process. I don't think Whyte poses too big of a threat against Wilder so why not take the money? Because he's about fighting the best? He clearly can't fight them because they have fights lined up.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Banko Villas View Post
          It's getting embarassing now. I used to support him, but almost 40 fights and he has fought no remarkable opponents.
          How "remarkable" are his opponents supposed to be? Boxing has four leagues each with their own champion and #1 contender. So getting someone in the top 8 to fight you is very difficult. Stiverne was #2 in the world when Deontay dominated him to win the most prestigious championship in the history of fighting, the WBC heavyweight championship of the world.

          He's been the champion for two years. He's been very active and he's won every defense by knockout. It's not his fault Povetkin cheated. It's not his fault Povetkin cheated AGAIN, meaning he now has to fight Stiverne again.

          40 fights is very misleading. Deontay didn't start training until he was 19. Most elite boxers start at like 5 years old. So of course he was brought along slower than most.

          But his opposition blows away Parker's opposition. And he's tried desperately to get Parker in the ring, but Arum is blocking the fight. Deontay can't force people to fight him.

          He's wanted to fight Joshua from the second Joshua had a belt, but Hearn, Haymon, Showtime, the WBC and the IBF all realize the fight would make wayyyyyyy more money next year than it would make this year.

          If Joshua and Wilder keep winning, they're on a collision course for late 2018 or Spring 2019 and the fight is going to be massive.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by original zero View Post
            How "remarkable" are his opponents supposed to be? Boxing has four leagues each with their own champion and #1 contender. So getting someone in the top 8 to fight you is very difficult. Stiverne was #2 in the world when Deontay dominated him to win the most prestigious championship in the history of fighting, the WBC heavyweight championship of the world.

            He's been the champion for two years. He's been very active and he's won every defense by knockout. It's not his fault Povetkin cheated. It's not his fault Povetkin cheated AGAIN, meaning he now has to fight Stiverne again.

            40 fights is very misleading. Deontay didn't start training until he was 19. Most elite boxers start at like 5 years old. So of course he was brought along slower than most.

            But his opposition blows away Parker's opposition. And he's tried desperately to get Parker in the ring, but Arum is blocking the fight. Deontay can't force people to fight him.

            He's wanted to fight Joshua from the second Joshua had a belt, but Hearn, Haymon, Showtime, the WBC and the IBF all realize the fight would make wayyyyyyy more money next year than it would make this year.

            If Joshua and Wilder keep winning, they're on a collision course for late 2018 or Spring 2019 and the fight is going to be massive.


            Tell them hoes...

            NOBODY is calling Wilder's name....and that suites the haters fine.

            They bunch together to create an online reality that suits their false narrative.

            Joshua won't even BREATHE Wilder's name

            He knows his slow ass gets baptized.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by KillaCamNZ View Post
              Oh right, sorry. I forgot - only people with a 0 should be recognized as part of history.

              Dismissing what Klitchko has achieved over the years is just flat out ******. That's dumb. Don't be dumb. Be sensible.

              While you're at it, check out the current state of the HW game. You'll find that AJ has contractual obligations with Klitchko - signing a Wilder fight right now would be a legal nightmare.

              You'll also find that Parker is a few months away from his first mandatory since capturing the WBO belt.

              Wilder can go back to fighting bums for chump change in the meantime, no dramas.

              No wonder the majority call Wilder apologists a bunch of idiots - they generally are.
              ...and what is that??

              Praising the Klit brothers for reigning over a dead division for a long time, is like giving a dummy credit for staying in college for 15 years.

              Wilder is fighting bums just like Vlad did his ENTIRE career...the difference is he isn't getting KTFO

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              • #57
                Originally posted by original zero View Post
                How "remarkable" are his opponents supposed to be? Boxing has four leagues each with their own champion and #1 contender. So getting someone in the top 8 to fight you is very difficult. Stiverne was #2 in the world when Deontay dominated him to win the most prestigious championship in the history of fighting, the WBC heavyweight championship of the world.

                He's been the champion for two years. He's been very active and he's won every defense by knockout. It's not his fault Povetkin cheated. It's not his fault Povetkin cheated AGAIN, meaning he now has to fight Stiverne again.

                40 fights is very misleading. Deontay didn't start training until he was 19. Most elite boxers start at like 5 years old. So of course he was brought along slower than most.

                But his opposition blows away Parker's opposition. And he's tried desperately to get Parker in the ring, but Arum is blocking the fight. Deontay can't force people to fight him.

                He's wanted to fight Joshua from the second Joshua had a belt, but Hearn, Haymon, Showtime, the WBC and the IBF all realize the fight would make wayyyyyyy more money next year than it would make this year.

                If Joshua and Wilder keep winning, they're on a collision course for late 2018 or Spring 2019 and the fight is going to be massive.
                Interesting rhetoric. Get's even more interesting when you compare Wilder with someone else...

                Wilder started boxing at 19 and had an amateur record of 30-5.
                Joshua started boxing at 18 and had an amateur record of 40-3.
                They are both olympians.

                Sounds like their professional careers should also be quite similar then, right? Yet at 19 fights Joshua fought Vladimir Klitschko, whereas at 19 fights Wilder fought.. Daniel Cota?

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                • #58
                  I agree with what you said 100%. Wilder only agrees to fight a tough guy when it's that or lose his title. When he has a choice he defends his title against guys most fans never heard of in his home state. AJ is my champion because he beat a top 3 heavyweight. Wilder has yet to defend his title against a top 10 contender. If and when he beats AJ I will consider him the heavyweight champion of the world. Until then he is just a cherry picking belt holder. He could fight Ortiz. That is who a good champion would fight.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Kigali View Post
                    Klit didn't make history chump

                    He doesn't need discrediting....Ross Purrity and a full time GOLFER did that

                    Why can't they actually FIGHT Wilder instead of basking in the glow of a better resume??

                    Brook did more than Spence....
                    How did that work out for him?
                    Wlad fought the best guys available even if they werent on his level. Wilder doesnt do that.

                    AJ
                    Wlad
                    Ortiz
                    Pulev
                    Bryant jennings

                    Those are the best guys in the division hes fought absolutely none of them, and i dont think hes even faced a top 10 guy for what its worth, you cannot dispute this. He fought gerald washington and was getting jabbed to death by him before the stoppage. I know its hard for you to be objective but its true, wilder has fought no one and doesnt seem like he wants to.

                    AJ had the title for a couple months and signed on to fight wlad, wilder has had the belt for 2 and a half years and hasnt fought ANYBODY. He also turned down an ortiz fight on short notice when he had a full camp. Then talked **** afterwards like he always does, its all talk no action from him thats why im not a fan anymore.
                    Last edited by RussB23; 06-27-2017, 01:35 AM.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                      Yea based on the landscape at the moment I call bs on this "fan" lost angle. There isn't anyone he SHOULD be fighting right now really (Joshua & Parker are booked & the earliest either could be available is likely 5-6+ months from now). And there certainly isn't anyone he SHOULD be fighting right now that he's for sure NOT fighting that we are aware of cuz no opponent has been selected.

                      D- troll thread &/or guy wasn't a fan in the first place.
                      Why not fight ortiz or pulev? **** might as well even offer bryant jennings a fight. Any of those guys is a solid opponent and ortiz and pulev could even be dangerous fights depending how they go.

                      He will fight none of them though is my bet, just watch, his next fight will be another unkown unranked guy that he fights in alabama. Rinse and repeat.

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