Let me give you an idea on how great Roy Jones Jr really was

[GrandmasterWang]

RJJ is truly a legend of boxing.

An amazing talent, simply amazing.

[IronDanHamza]

How many top ranked fighters did Jones beat after Toney?

Quite a few.

[Bjl12]

He once lost to a LHW with 22 losses.

Can you ever imagine Jones losing to a guy with 22 losses?

That is my point I guess. No disrespect.

So "out-of-prime" Ezzard loses to 1 guy with 22 losses...Charles = auto-bum.

RJJ has been KTFO several times and lost decisively to flat out bad fighters over the last DECADE = GOAT.

This. Fucking. Guy.

[A-Wolf]

That's why the Tarver KO was so shocking.

It was like seeing Superman get shot down.

People just weren't ready to see that happen.

Shocking. Mind blowing. Earth shattering. I thought the world was ending. It's one of the events that I took as an early harbinger of the coming apocalypse. I screamed like an inner city baby momma crying over the body of her fallen son that day.

[-DSG-]

Nobody beats Roy from 160-175 in his prime ever!

[BattlingNelson]

Quite a few.

Top? Who?

I would think that we have a rare case with a great fighter here, where you can create a better resume by substuting the fighter he actually fought with a fighter from that division he never fought (after winning the championship).

[The Ox]

RJJ fought policemen and cab drivers, nothing to see here folks move on..

[IronDanHamza]

Top? Who?

I would think that we have a rare case with a great fighter here, where you can create a better resume by substuting the fighter he actually fought with a fighter from that division he never fought (after winning the championship).

Well what are we defining as top ranked?

Top 5? Top 10?

If we are talking top 5 then he beat;

Virgil Hill - #1
Montel Griffin - #3
Antonio Tarver - #1
John Ruiz - #5
Reggie Johnson - #3
Merqui Sosa - #5
Vinny Pazienza - #5

If we are talking Top 10 then he beat;

Eric Harding - #7
Clinton Woods - #9
Lou Del Valle - #6
David Telesco - #9
Mike McCallum - #6

So either way he beat quite a few top ranked guys after Toney.

[ghost94]

What shows that Hopkins wasn't in his prime? Was Jones in his prime?

Hopkins didn't become a champion for another 2 years and hadn't faced anyone on the level of Roy Jones Jr. for another 7 years. Neither of them were in their prime, but no one here can say that Roy Jones Jr. beat anyone on the level of Canelo or GGG at 160, he didn't. That's the point I'm making. The point I made about Hopkins not being in his prime when he beat him says just that. If he had beat prime Hopkins a good 10 years later, you could say that yes he did indeed beat someone on the level of Canelo or GGG.

As far as Hopkins goes he would beat Hopkins any version of him..

We'll never know. They fought nearly 20 years apart. If they would have met in the middle we'd have a real answer. Roy beat him in '93 and then Hopkins beat him in 2010. The real fight would have been right in the middle around 2001-2002.

[ironmt]

Nobody beats Roy from 160-175 in his prime ever!

You actually have a very legitimate argument.