Let me give you an idea on how great Roy Jones Jr really was

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  • Vadrigar.
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    #221
    Originally posted by Chollo Vista
    You're making too much sense in this post.

    But the "only" reason I even compared Canelo/GGG to prime Hopkins is because given the selection of fighters today at 160, they were the only ones I can use in comparison to if Charlo beat them today.
    My bad, I meant the false equivalence between Roy beating 1993 Hopkins and Floyd's win over Canelo.

    Also that idiot had actually had the nerve to compare '93 Hopkins with David Lemieux.

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      #222
      Originally posted by Vadrigar.

      Also that idiot had actually had the nerve to compare '93 Hopkins with Lemieux.
      Did he really

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        #223
        Originally posted by Chollo Vista
        Did he really
        Originally posted by ghost94
        . He beat Hopkins a good 10 years before his prime. So in reality it'd be more like someone who's beat just Lemieux.
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^

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        • Chollo Vista
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          #224
          Originally posted by Vadrigar.
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^


          Wow, he really compared a 28 year old prime Bernard Hopkins to David Lemieux.... Not Canelo, not GGG, not Daniel Jacobs... No, David Lemieux.

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          • ghost94
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            #225
            Originally posted by Vadrigar.
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^
            Who is better, 2001-2003 Hopkins or '93 Hopkins?

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              #226
              Originally posted by ghost94
              He beat Hopkins a good 10 years before his prime.
              That's crazy talk. Hopkins was at his prime when he was beating smaller guys coming up like Joppy and Trinidad? Allen was a 2-bit bum. Hopkins was at his best against RJJ, stop!

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                #227
                Originally posted by McNulty
                That's crazy talk. Hopkins was at his prime when he was beating smaller guys coming up like Joppy and Trinidad? Allen was a 2-bit bum. Hopkins was at his best against RJJ, stop!
                He wasn't even a champion. GGG and Canelo are champions. '93 Hopkins isn't prime Hopkins. Fact. He was the better fighter 10 years later, his performances and resume prove it.

                No one here is drawing the line between resume and eye test. In 1993 Hopkins wasn't a champion. So everyone goes to the eye test and says forget it was '93 and he had no resume, he must be prime without a title fight even. Then we give Hill, a top 10 light heavyweight great to some who comes off a loss before Roy beats him the eye test and Ward is head and shoulders better, then we flip back to resume. Pick one.
                Last edited by ghost94; 07-01-2017, 10:09 PM.

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                  #228
                  If you have studied Hopkins career and his movements, things he's done his entire career, you'd see that 93 Hopkins still displayed the same characteristics he's displayed for his entire career, except he was just a younger version and physically stronger version.

                  Hopkins won a title before the RJJ matchup. Even won a title the next fight after RJJ. He took out Sergundo Mercado less than a year after RJJ which was one of Hopkins most notable career victories... But listening to some of these clowns, Hopkins wasn't prime.

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                  • McNulty
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                    #229
                    Originally posted by ghost94
                    He wasn't even a champion.
                    Who gives a fcuk? Look at the fighter and forget all that bull****. Hopkins looked great against bums and smaller guys moving up but the truth is he was in his prime against Jones.

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                      #230
                      Originally posted by ghost94
                      He wasn't even a champion.
                      Hopkins wasn't a champion because he fought and lost to Prime Roy Jones Jr for the vacant IBF title. That's the ONLY reason Hopkins wasn't a champion in 93. Anyone else pinned across from Bernard Hopkins, outside of Roy Jones Jr, and Hopkins is IBF champion.

                      Why is that so hard to get through your head?
                      Last edited by Chollo Vista; 07-01-2017, 10:39 PM.

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