John David Jackson: "Gennady Golovkins biggest flaw is his defense, he has no defense

[TonyGe]

[QUOTE=Metho_4u;17766626]

Obviously Jacobs and brook, but I don't even really count brook, as he moved up 2 divisions

B level fighters.
Lemieux
Daniel Gaele
Marco Antonio Rubio
Curtis Stevens
Martin Murray
Daniele Jacobs
Brook but he is really a junior middleweight fighting at Welterweight. Canelo also fights one weight class under his natural weight.

[Metho_4u]

[QUOTE=TonyGe;17766888]

B level fighters.
Lemieux
Daniel Gaele
Marco Antonio Rubio
Curtis Stevens
Martin Murray
Daniele Jacobs
Brook but he is really a junior middleweight fighting at Welterweight. Canelo also fights one weight class under his natural weight.

AHAHAHAHAHA!! That is AWESOME! You believe lemieux, Stevens, and the rest of your list are B level? Is that so you can turn golovkin into an A level fighter when he's not? Your scale of what is A,B, and C level is terrible!

Also, why do you think that about Canelo? Was he comfortably making 154? He looked fine to me. If he can make the weight, he's a jmw

[TonyGe]

I knew that would be your response. Its predictable. That's my list of fighters and that's how I rate them. It's easy to turn your statement around and say your deliberately rating G opponents low to boost your point of view and your view of what constitutes a and average fighter vs fighters that are consistantly winning is unrealistic or biased. Golovkin is rated one of the top pound for pound fighters by a lot of boxing pundits that don't have an agenda. This started as a discussion about defense. Let's see the punch stats after they fight and who the better defender is. As far as I can tell Canelo has always been rated below Golovkin for his defense.

[Mister Wolf]

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AHAHAHAHAHA!! That is AWESOME! You believe lemieux, Stevens, and the rest of your list are B level? Is that so you can turn golovkin into an A level fighter when he's not? Your scale of what is A,B, and C level is terrible!

Also, why do you think that about Canelo? Was he comfortably making 154? He looked fine to me. If he can make the weight, he's a jmw

The worst offender on that list is Rubio. Same dude at 154 that got highlight reeled by journeyman Kofi Jantuah.

[Chuckguy]

Having a good chin isn't the same as having a good defence.

No but haven't you heard that offense is the best defense? Ggg pressures you and you can't get off. I bet in the Jacobs rematch he is more relentless. If it happens and that's a big if

[TonyGe]

[QUOTE=Mister Wolf;17767038]

The worst offender on that list is Rubio. Same dude at 154 that got highlight reeled by journeyman Kofi Jantuah.

So what? Rubio was tough durable held a world title and had a high KO ratio. He showed a lot of heart against Lemieux and stopped him after Lemieux faded. IMO C level fighters don't come back from taking that kind of punishment.

[Madison Boxing]

is there an african american in the world that rates golovkin? im surprised hes ever managed to win a fight judging by the way they all go on about him. unfortunately for you lot noones listening to your whining, cause many consider him the best pound for pound fighter in the world (espn, sky sports)

[Robbie Barrett]

I knew that would be your response. Its predictable. That's my list of fighters and that's how I rate them. It's easy to turn your statement around and say your deliberately rating G opponents low to boost your point of view and your view of what constitutes a and average fighter vs fighters that are consistantly winning is unrealistic or biased. Golovkin is rated one of the top pound for pound fighters by a lot of boxing pundits that don't have an agenda. This started as a discussion about defense. Let's see the punch stats after they fight and who the better defender is. As far as I can tell Canelo has always been rated below Golovkin for his defense.

Fighting guys like Mayweather and Lara who are very accurate with punches will have a big affect on you defence %. If he fought nothing but the level of comp Golovkin has it'd be better.

[Robbie Barrett]

is there an african american in the world that rates golovkin? im surprised hes ever managed to win a fight judging by the way they all go on about him. unfortunately for you lot noones listening to your whining, cause many consider him the best pound for pound fighter in the world (espn, sky sports)

Sky Sports doesn't.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=749201

[TonyGe]

Fighting guys like Mayweather and Lara who are very accurate with punches will have a big affect on you defence %. If he fought nothing but the level of comp Golovkin has it'd be better.

Well they are going to fight so we will see how they compare.