Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
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Who do you consider the Heavyweight "champion"
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Originally posted by Pigeons View PostYou consider Golden Boy's Ring belt to be the most prestigious. Your opinion is worthless.
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Originally posted by ScottWeiland View PostIn the instance of this scenario, yes I do.
which means you've been brainwashed by golden boy promotions.
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Originally posted by original zero View Postno no no no no . . . you specifically said you consider the ****zine belt to be the most important and prestigious in general, not just in this scenario.
which means you've been brainwashed by golden boy promotions.
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Originally posted by original zero View Postand if fury ever fights again, and if it's still vacant, he can try to fill it. but you don't just become champion again because you came out of retirement. title becomes vacant upon retirement. now somebody has to fill it. you can't just give it back to fury. that's not how lineal works.
has he fought since announcing retirement? does he have a fight scheduled? no. he retired. he's intends to come out of retirement, but hasn't yet.
it's not a sanctioning body. it's a ****zine.
a ****zine that was purchased by an HBO promoter, who then changed all of the rules and **** on every tenet of the lineal championship.
the ****zine title has NOTHING to do with the lineal title anymore.
the ****zine title is simply an HBO propaganda title. with the rules adjusted and changed at will whenever it benefits HBO to do so. joshua and wilder are both with showtime, so the ****zine title remains on fury, despite him publicly announcing that he was retired, vacating all of his titles, failing a drug test, refusing further drug tests, threatening suicide, no fights scheduled and over a year and a half without fighting.
the ****zine belt is meaningless.
But the lineal isn't about technical, it's about what is done in the ring.
That is why it is so respected over so long a time, even when common sense may say otherwise.
I think both Ward and Krusher destroy Adonis.
But, until either beats him IN THE RING, Stevenson is the lineal.
The Ring belt is the generally accepted authority on who wears the lineal crown.
They list Fury as the Ring champ.
More important, all you have to do is listen to the other Heavyweights.
Wilder, AJ, King Kong, even Wlad still.
Fury is on all of their lists.
They know who the lineal is and in the end, that's what counts, not my opinion or yours.
Good takes tho.
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