Who do you consider the Heavyweight "champion"

[original zero]

Another lie quote where I said that.

you've already been quoted in this thread saying the ring belt is the most prestigious and also said the ring belt is the most important.

even though it's owned by oscar de la hoya and he makes the rules up as he goes along to benefit his interests as a promoter.

[koolkc107]

Fury is still the lineal.

But, I don't think he lasts 12 with either of the other 2...

[original zero]

Fury is still the lineal.

he publicly announced he was retired. the lineal title becomes immediately vacant at that point.

[koolkc107]

he publicly announced he was retired. the lineal title becomes immediately vacant at that point.

He then just as publicly announced he wasn't retiring.

Then he was banned.

Still lineal.

[wlad1111]

Nobody at this point

[original zero]

He then just as publicly announced he wasn't retiring.

lineal title becomes vacant the second he announces retirement.

coming out of retirement doesn't reinstate you as lineal champion.

[KillaCamNZ]

There is no Champion - just stakeholders.

[koolkc107]

he publicly announced he was retired. the lineal title becomes immediately vacant at that point.

Nonsense.

He is still "the man who beat the man" and there wasn't enough time between his "retirement" and "unretirement/banning" for anyone else to claim the mantle.

[LacedUp]

Still kinda think Fury, but he's pushing it

[original zero]

Nonsense.

He is still "the man who beat the man" and there wasn't enough time between his "retirement" and "unretirement/banning" for anyone else to claim the mantle.

that's not how lineal works. if you retire, it becomes vacant. if you unretire later, a year later, a week later, it doesn't matter, it's already vacant.