Who do you consider the Heavyweight "champion"

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    #91
    Tyson Fury holds the Lineal title so he will always be relevant until he either loses it or retires once and for all. Meanwhile Anthony Joshua is the man to beat in the division. Fury-Joshua is the fight to establish an undisputed Heavyweight champion. Deontay Wilder is completely irrelevant.

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      #92
      Kigali, get your dumb ass in here and vote for Wilder.

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        #93
        Tyson Fury

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        • RuslanChagaev
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          #94
          Tyson Fury is inactive now.
          Deontay Wilder is exciting and he has some powerful skills but still fighting against BUMS!
          Joshua is a diamond for boxing world and he beat a legend in his last fight.

          in three option, my choice is Joshua.
          If it was the fourth option, my choice would be different.(King Kong)

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            #95
            Originally posted by Celtic Hammer
            Tyson Fury holds the Lineal title
            No, he doesn't. The lineal title became vacant when he publicly announced his retirement.


            Fury-Joshua is the fight to establish an undisputed Heavyweight champion.
            No, it's not. The WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO titles must be unified to establish an undisputed champion.

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            • original zero
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              #96
              Originally posted by koolkc107
              Great points. And technically correct.

              But the lineal isn't about technical, it's about what is done in the ring.
              The lineal title is vacated when you retire or leave the division. Fury retired. It's really simple.


              I think both Ward and Krusher destroy Adonis.

              But, until either beats him IN THE RING, Stevenson is the lineal.

              The Ring belt is the generally accepted authority on who wears the lineal crown.
              Stevenson doesn't hold the magazine belt. The magazine belt has nothing to do with lineal anymore. Oscar De La Hoya bought the magazine, changed all the rules, makes up more rules as he goes along and does everything possible to benefit HBO and damage Showtime.

              So no, it's not the generally accepted authority on lineal anymore as their rules clearly have absolutely nothing to do with lineal. TBRB is the new authority for lineal.


              They list Fury as the Ring champ.
              And don't list Stevenson.

              Both of which show that lineal belt & magazine belt no longer have anything to do with each other.

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              • TheBigLug
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                #97
                Fury. Joshua's belts all belong to Fury.

                But really, i probably consider Joshua the main man in the division now. Fury has been inactive too long now to claim he's still the champ because he never lost his belts in a fight.

                I still don't see Wilder as "the champ", he's just a belt holder. Same for Parker. To be honest, Joshua might not even be any more credible than them, maybe it's just the publicity machine behind him making everyone think he is the man right now. At least he did beat Wlad, but it's still a life and death fight with an inactive guy in his 40's
                Last edited by TheBigLug; 06-15-2017, 10:31 PM.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by TheBigLug
                  Fury. Joshua's belts all belong to Fury.
                  Fury publicly announced his retirement. All claims to lineage end at that point. If Fury ever returns, Joshua will destroy him.


                  I still don't see Wilder as "the champ", he's just a belt holder. Same for Parker.
                  Wilder is more than just a belt holder. He has the most important belt and is the longest reigning heavyweight champion. Parker is a mere belt holder, holding the least important belt and beating a guy who wasn't even in the top 10 for the vacant title.

                  But with Joshua knocking out Klitschko and unifying the WBA & IBF, he has the best claim to the throne right now.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by original zero
                    Fury publicly announced his retirement. All claims to lineage end at that point. If Fury ever returns, Joshua will destroy him.




                    Wilder is more than just a belt holder. He has the most important belt and is the longest reigning heavyweight champion. Parker is a mere belt holder, holding the least important belt and beating a guy who wasn't even in the top 10 for the vacant title.

                    But with Joshua knocking out Klitschko and unifying the WBA & IBF, he has the best claim to the throne right now.
                    this wilder has the most prestigious and true title

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