Kell Brook was never really that good

[AliBombaye]

I see ***bois still trying to give credit to the in the closet mulatto for fights he never had talking about he would have done this or that to the rest of the division but Spence lmfao.

Brook's career in a nutshell.

13/14 year career.
1 notable win, close hugfest at that.
1 World title, IBF.
Lost his IBF World title to the first live body he faced.
Broke both eye sockets back to back.
Quit back to back, a boxing record?

For some that's beyond an ATG career as is evident by Brook's nuthuggers.

Lord Spence I pray to thee each and every day for ridding us of a belt hostage, our one true saviour you are. Nothing worse in this sport then belt hostage pond scum!

On a side note good luck to Brook beating anyone worth a damn at 154, watch this bum try get paydays off beating Porter in a bore fest 2 millennia ago.

[Bjl12]

1 credible win in 38 fights, even that fight that he did win against Shawn Porter was a very close and scrappy victory that could have gone either way.
In my honest opinion, I think he's the worst welterweight champion of this decade, his careful management always meant he was fighting bums.
The times he fought GGG and ESJ he got ****ed over.

/thoughts

People will whine but most of what you said is objective. Brook has 1 solid win in a close fight and got stopped by 2 stronger guys. Doesnt mean either of the guys that beat him are automatically WORK class either since Kell himself isnt. Errol is still green and hasn't been tested and Gennady has passed all tests so far but looked very normal against a B level fighter in Jacobs and faces his first A- level opponent in a few weeks.

Guys aren't world level until they beat top competition and/or win across weight classes. Spence and Gennady haven't done either yet

[-Kev-]

We have to see him vs more fighters though.

We've seen him vs:

Porter: He won in Porter's home country.

GGG: He lost, but GGG was too big, two weight classes above. Brook did well while he lasted.

Spence: Competitive but he lost, not wise to fight Spence right after GGG, maybe heal more, come back against a weaker opponent then have at the tops WW's.

Looking at this lineup of fighters and under the circumstances he fought them in, is not exactly fair to make an assessment of what level of opponent he is. The fact is he is 36-1 with 25KO's at 147. Kell Brook is better at his job than most of you are at yours.

Coming back from the GGG loss to WW to fight Peterson, Vargas, or Matthysse, you'd have all been talking about him very differently right now because he'd likely would have a comeback win. For all we know, Errol Spence is a future #1 P4P fighter and the next big 147-160 star of boxing. If so, Kell Brook didn't just lose to two bums in GGG and Spence. I deem Brook a "good" fighter, not great, but good.

[Bjl12]

1 credible win in 38 fights, even that fight that he did win against Shawn Porter was a very close and scrappy victory that could have gone either way.
In my honest opinion, I think he's the worst welterweight champion of this decade, his careful management always meant he was fighting bums.
The times he fought GGG and ESJ he got ****ed over.

/thoughts

People will whine but most of what you said is objective. Brook has 1 solid win in a close fight and got stopped by 2 stronger guys. Doesnt mean either of the guys that beat him are automatically WORLD class either since Kell himself isnt. Errol is still green and hasn't been tested and Gennady has passed all tests so far but looked very normal against his first B level fighter in Jacobs and faces his first A- level opponent in a few weeks.

Guys aren't world level until they beat top competition and/or win across weight classes. Spence and Gennady haven't done either yet. Nonetheless Kell is still a good fighter, just not world class

[W1LL]

You have to bear in mind, most of the Kell Brook hate comes from the same handful of posters with South Asian origins. They worship Amir Khan, a devout ******, who drinks, smokes, shags **********s, holds money and fame in higher regard than anything else and shows little respect towards his elders and parents.

[Sheldon312]

he is a b class fighter

Diaz, Lamont, Broner, Granados, Collazo, are B level fighters. Brook would murk all of them with ease so that makes him A- at least.

[Sheldon312]

Brook is a very good fighter he just lost to two beasts.
One he really had no business getting in the ring with.

Idk why people can't give him credit he was one of few legitimate world champions who beat Porters ass handily on foreign soil. He has never avoided any mandatory or anybody in the sport, period.
Took a crazy risk going upto MW to fight GGG and gave a pretty damn good account of himself, dropped back down and fought Spence when everyone said he wouldn't and was on pretty even terms rather than give his belt up. Got both his orbital bones broken and once again he is looking to come back and take on one of the best.

People put too much on winning records. When you fight the guys you're supposed to you'll take Ls sooner or later.
Brooks a quality fighter and probably the second best at Welterweight. Yes I think he'd beat Thurmans ass from pillar to post. Lets see that guy fight GGG and Spence, see how he gets on.

Thurman and Brook is a 50/50 fight. No way in hell does Brook beat his ass. I swear Thurman is the most underrated fighter in the world. This guy gets in the ring and outclasses his opponents but yet a guy who has two big losses and fought nothing but bums beats his ass? I swear, this forum is going to ****.

[Sheldon312]

People will whine but most of what you said is objective. Brook has 1 solid win in a close fight and got stopped by 2 stronger guys. Doesnt mean either of the guys that beat him are automatically WORK class either since Kell himself isnt. Errol is still green and hasn't been tested and Gennady has passed all tests so far but looked very normal against a B level fighter in Jacobs and faces his first A- level opponent in a few weeks.

Guys aren't world level until they beat top competition and/or win across weight classes. Spence and Gennady haven't done either yet

Yet you praise Loma and Crawford.

[dan_cov]

Thurman and Brook is a 50/50 fight. No way in hell does Brook beat his ass. I swear Thurman is the most underrated fighter in the world. This guy gets in the ring and outclasses his opponents but yet a guy who has two big losses and fought nothing but bums beats his ass? I swear, this forum is going to ****.

Thurman is an opportunist. Fights the path of least resistance only when they're there for the taking.

If Brook fought DSG, a shot to pieces Collazo and a shot to pieces Guerrero he'd be still undefeated and have at least two more knockouts on his ledger if not three.

Fought nothing but bums? He's fought better opponents than Thurman has.
Porter is a bum? GGG? Spence?
Brook had a broken orbital was inactive, dropped two weights to come back and instantly fight Spence. Where is Thurman at?Why isn't he rallying for a unification with Spence? Cause he'd get his ass bust and is once again looking to fight someone there for the taking.
Where is the outcry from fans for this fight? You want unifications and undisputed champions right?

[Boxfan83]

1 credible win in 38 fights, even that fight that he did win against Shawn Porter was a very close and scrappy victory that could have gone either way.
In my honest opinion, I think he's the worst welterweight champion of this decade, his careful management always meant he was fighting bums.
The times he fought GGG and ESJ he got ****ed over.

/thoughts

I agree 110%!