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  • Brook just isn't a puncher at 147. I'm not sure where he is going to find success. Does not have the elite speed at 147, does not have elite power at 147, 154, or 160. Does not have elite length. He has size at 147 but there's always someone bigger, ie Spence. He has a beautiful counter hook but only against righties, doesn't know the angles against southpaws. Spence ducked under his counter all night and Brook just stood there to eat body shots.

    I do think Brook could compete with the best at 147 who are not southpaws, or if he learns against southpaws, but there were holes in both him and Spence's games. Still, you could see Spence was longer, faster, stronger, and more powerful. Brook has better defense and some better shots, better accuracy, which is why he had success early, but he never found any sort of dominance, and his chocolate brownies landed flush a few times to no effect. Brook doesn't have elite power, doesn't have elite speed, so what is he? He's basically Danny Garcia 2.0 and just as tough, but still lacking the x-factor.

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    • Anybody see dropping of brownies when Kell took a knee?guess it came from an upset stomachache. Really, all respect to a excellent fight as Kell Brook. He ducked no one. Hats off.

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      • Brook's biggest mistake ishe fought GGG that fight broke him and I don't think he will ever recover, you have to ask yourself how his team ever allowed him. His eye will nit stand up to elitr fighters going forward who will target his eye socket area. I'm not sure where he will go from here 147 or 154 but I wish him the best.

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        • Originally posted by Kagami Taiga View Post
          For everyone talking about how Brook was dominant in the beginning, sure. He was winning the battle, appeared to be boxing well. However, he was losing the war. Spence was drumming his body. Shot after shot, to midsection and solar plexus. I said nit in the RBR thread, if Brook could sustain that, itd be amazing. He couldn't. And thats why he lost the war. He slowed down just enough in the middle rounds that Spence was able to start catching him with his hard stuff. And that was the fight basically.
          This!!!! Completely Agree!

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          • It's kinda disgusting how people are still using Brook's injured right eye as an excuse, when Spence injured the left one. It's a sad day when you're watching people invent lies to discredit a fighter who's actually exciting, and wants to take on everybody. People are really just fans of fighters, and not boxing :/

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            • Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
              The fight changed completely after 6.

              Brook went from comfortable and outboxing Spence to slow and stationary. You saw it in the corner of the 7th round, Brook said something to his trainer who saw the camera and told Brook 'don't say anything'.
              The constant body shots are what changed the fight. That's the purpose of body shots, to slow the opponent down, take away their legs and lower their guard. After 6 rds Brook was easier to hit, and started to take a beating when trapped against the ropes.

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              • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                Bully to the belly! Who wants next! Spence vs. Crawford is the next mega-fight! Winner is P4P $1!
                Spence would **** Crawford out!

                Too big, too strong and too relentless.

                Arum would never do it.

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                • Originally posted by angkag View Post
                  Donald, that you again ? Get back to that president stuff you supposed to be doing - facts not your forte.

                  right, that was a typo which I've since corrected, I meant to say that Brook was behind on all 3 cards.

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                  • Originally posted by basegod View Post
                    Dude u is pretty out of touch with reality. I dont even really like Thurman but based off Spence's performance today i would have to say that Spence vs Thurman would b a close fight.

                    Also who in the fu** was calling for Spence and Thurman 2 years ago? Spence was still fighting journeymen (not that u would understand what a journeyman is anyways) 2 years ago.

                    WTF? Postol and Diaz are just gatekeepers? who then is an actual contender at 140?

                    also Crawford's last fight was at MSG and he seemed to have a good crowd

                    Floyd Mayweather and many others were calling for Spence-Thurman two years ago. Here's one of a million links referencing this hoped for match-up.
                    And yes, Felix Diaz is a gatekeeper. Normally a gatekeeper at WW but still a gatekeeper. As for Postol he beat a shell of Matthysse and exactly zero credible opponents after that.

                    Indongo and Broner are the only real contenders at 140. That is because anyone good enough to fight at WW fights at WW, because that is where the money is. If Mikey Garcia or Loma moved up to fight Bud, that would be good too.

                    Thurman has beat Porter and D. Garcia.
                    Porter has beat Broner and Berto.
                    Garcia has beat Khan, Peterson, Matthysse
                    Spence has beat Algieri and Brook.
                    Brook has beat Porter.
                    Khan has beat Maidana.
                    Pac has beat a lot of good opponents.
                    Bradley beat Pac, Provo, Peterson, JMM

                    So, Thurman, Porter, Khan, Brook, Pac, Bradley, Spence, Danny Garcia, Mikey Garcia, Lomachenko, Broner, and Indongo are potential opponents who are more than gatekeepers. Diaz has fought two world class opponents- Peterson and Bud- and lost both. He seems to be the definition of a gatekeeper. A gatekeeper is someone who will lose to the very top echelon of fighters but beat everyone else. That describes both Postol and Diaz. That's not an insult either. That is still pretty damn good. If only a handful of people your weight can beat you, that is better than most people in life. So calm down, Crawford hasn't fought anyone on the level of Swift, The Truth, Special K, One Time, Showtime, Desert Storm, or Glass Jaw.

                    If you think Thurman has any chance against Spence you obviously don't watch much boxing.

                    http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweathe...an-next--92470

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                    • Spences first big fight against a Top-Opponent in hostile territory and he passed the test. He had problems early on but Brook is verry good skilled fighter and the best fighter he could fight today at 147 pounds. I would pick him to beat Thurmann too. If Crawford moves up though...well i think hes even a level higher than Spence but im sure Spences prime is yet to come. Crawford still improving too, though. So i would pick Crawford for sure but damn that would be one of these fights every boxing fan needs to see.
                      Last edited by Tobi.G; 05-28-2017, 01:00 AM.

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