Is Mike Tyson one of the most overrated fighters ever?

[sugar ray lenrd]

No, man, you can't even ask those questions because Lennox Lewis or Klitschkos weren't stars of the same magnitude and casual fans doesn't even praise them the way they praise Tyson, how you can praise some fighter that you're not even aware of? If I'll tell to some casual fans that Lennox Lewis was a bum I'll get no reaction because they don't care, they'll be like "Ok, so what?". If I say that Tyson is far from being top 3 of all time, they'll get emotional and nobody says he's not a great fighter because he is, just not a top 3 of all time. Not even top 20. Everytime when I see some school kid in the internet who only watches highlights boxing videos on Youtube saying that current fighters are bums and it's only about Ali, Tyson....and the rest of boxing world is garbage....this is exactly what I don't like with that Tyson's obsession. Okay, they can praise Tyson all the time, I don't care as long as they don't forget about other boxers with better resumes



Wins on the resume matters more than your losses. Boxers who you defeated matters more than boxers you lost your fights to. Considering that, there's tens of fighters who's better than Tyson but they doesn't get mentioned. And I don't talk about Klichkos. And yes Lewis has better resume and I've seen some boxing fans who HATE Lewis with passion only because he dared to KO Mike, like Lewis is some bum who only got lucky that night. That's just ******ed

Reallyˇ??? Tyson's lost to Lennox I don't put too much stock into it, he wasn't the same fighter, he was shot & you even know that.

[sugar ray lenrd]

[QUOTE=Boxing Goat;17707465]It's Vitali and he only lost to one semi-lesser fighter and that was Byrd and as you well know he lost because he got injured in a fight he was pitching a shutout.


And about vitaly's injury? The Dude quit, he lost to frecking Chris Byrd!!! The others got ko by Rahman & Oliver McCall & frecking Scott what's his name? I'm not a big Tyson fan, more of a Ali fan. But please, don't **** on Tyson's career, as a former fighter & now trainer, I find it insulting.

[robertzimmerman]

Don't get me wrong, I love Tyson, he's the face of boxing right now for me, a charismatic person.

I appreciate that he's the fighter who made pro boxing popular among youth in Russia in 90's (this is where I'm from). People wouldn't care that much about the sport over here if it wasn't for him

Some dog owners name their pit bulls after Tyson. I had a friend and he's called Tyson because he loves ****ing people up. Tyson has that kind of fame that went over American borders. Even Pacquiao and Mayweather never had that kind of international fame when you think about it. When you ask a casual person about some boxers, Tyson is always the second name that gets mentioned after Ali. I don't know how it is in America, but that's how it is over here. Ali, Tyson, maybe Roy Jones and that's it, they barely know any other names

And I get that he was famous not because of his resume but because of the manner how he was winning fights. Definitely one of the most entertaining fighters of all time. But when you look at his resume you start thinking that all this hype isn't justified. Holyfield and Lewis were much better and they were coming from the same generation of heavyweights. I made this thread because I got tired arguing with casuals when I say that Tyson is not even top 5 heavyweight of all time

Man, you can even make an argument for Golovkin's resume being better and I'm not hating on Tyson, I have a lot of respect for him

How on earth could anyone make an argument that GG has a better resume?

What are you talking about?

[hugh grant]

Where does Tyson rank himself? I know Tyson might say something like its not up to me to judge like I'm sure he's said befoire

[trfcdan86]

Tyson is not in the top 10 GOAT HW for me.

A tremendous specimine when focused, but not the mythical fighter some will have you beleive.

Prime v Prime, Lewis, Vitali and Wlad all beat him, heck maybe even Bowe does too.

[dibzvincent143]

Don't get me wrong, I love Tyson, he's the face of boxing right now for me, a charismatic person.

I appreciate that he's the fighter who made pro boxing popular among youth in Russia in 90's (this is where I'm from). People wouldn't care that much about the sport over here if it wasn't for him

Some dog owners name their pit bulls after Tyson. I had a friend and he's called Tyson because he loves ****ing people up. Tyson has that kind of fame that went over American borders. Even Pacquiao and Mayweather never had that kind of international fame when you think about it. When you ask a casual person about some boxers, Tyson is always the second name that gets mentioned after Ali. I don't know how it is in America, but that's how it is over here. Ali, Tyson, maybe Roy Jones and that's it, they barely know any other names

And I get that he was famous not because of his resume but because of the manner how he was winning fights. Definitely one of the most entertaining fighters of all time. But when you look at his resume you start thinking that all this hype isn't justified. Holyfield and Lewis were much better and they were coming from the same generation of heavyweights. I made this thread because I got tired arguing with casuals when I say that Tyson is not even top 5 heavyweight of all time

Man, you can even make an argument for Golovkin's resume being better and I'm not hating on Tyson, I have a lot of respect for him

I think prime tyson is of solid substance if not great for you guys. But we never get the chance to see most of it against top oppositions. He's one of those boxers that never really get to reach their potentials. After his trainer died, it all went wrong and downhill from there, he went to prison, what did you expect from him after that? That he's still the same mentally and physically?

He's already past it when he fought the lewises and holyfields of the world. Those are all money fights.

I think he got a unique skillset as well. Those head movement, getting inside without getting hit, foot work, speed, power and ultimately that killer intinct.
Pound for pound make a 147 version of Mike Tyson and he'd clubber everyone there and be most avoided.

But we really can't judge because he had a bad career.

We are yet to witness anyone like him at any weights at all.

[AlexKid]

doesn't live up to the hype but the hype is at God status, he is still amazingly good legitimately great esp considering how young and short he was

[TheDynasty]

No He was not. Dude was something else coming up youngest heavyweight champ. Pre cus he was the man.

[sleone60]

He lost to the Best of the Best

People forget what Mike did to Michael Spinks. Mike lost against the best of the best.

Wish him and Rid**** Bowe got it on.

Yup, he lost to the best of the best: Danny Williams (Steak & Eggs Hall of Fame), Kevin McBride (Spam & Eggs Hall of Fame), Buster Douglas (Under Achiever's who had 1 good night Hall of Fame), Lennox (Bet my Chin's better than Norton's)Lewis (Pushing 40 1 year from retirement), Evander Holyfield (Blown up Cruiser on the downside).

Reality, how can a guy NEVER beat or really compete against the aforementioned, win a war or beat an equally talented fighter be considered great?? They can't.

[sleone60]

What?? Pre Cus he was the man??? Cus died 11 fights into Tyson's Pro career!