Please Explain How Canelo Is More Skilled Than GGG? LMAO

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  • bigdunny1
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    #101
    Originally posted by bigdunny1


    Dude how many times can you be proven wrong in one thread before you just shut up and walk out. You the clown that guaranteed Chavez would KO canelo that alone should require you never speak on anything Canelo related.
    So Headshots just going to ignore that he went on and on that Canelo didn't slip and counter Chavez's jab? Begged for a gif and now quite? Please tell me again how Canelo can't counter jabs from taller fighters? Or guys with LONGER reaches then GGG. That's just one gif I can get you more but Canelo countering him time after time when he jabbed is why he refused to throw it anymore.

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    • satiev1
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      #102
      Originally posted by HeadShots
      correct. not only the better, harder, longer and higher jab.

      GGG also has the quicker feet.


      What does this mean?


      That means Canelo's pullcounter is completely useless. he wont' be able to reach GGG with the counter
      The pull counter only work when the guy is standing square up flat footed throwing the jab. Examples are cotto and chavez jr. GGG is moving laterally while throwing the jab with his right glove up. Like with lemeuix, he throws the jab and goes back at the same time leaving no time to counter.

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      • bigdunny1
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        #103
        Originally posted by satiev1
        When you stand flat footed and throw the jab then yes. GGG is moving while he is throwing his jab. He is also moving back at the same time rolling his shoulder as he throws the jab. See lemiuex. Canelo won't have time or space to counter his jab.
        Cotto is flat footed now? He is faster and more skilled then GGG. I also listed a ton of fighters who aren't flat footed like Khan, Lara, Trout. Women lie Men lie but numbers don't. That's why I pulled the numbers because idiots keep saying foolish things. Canelo isn't just ok at slipping, countering jabs he's GREAT at it! And Lemieux is a HORRIBLE defensive fighter. That's the point dummy Canelo is reallly good on defense Lemieux has always been hit alot and has been knocked out by bum Rubio and lost twice to avg fighters before fighting GGG. Don't ever again compare Lemieux inability to defend a jab to Canelo who did this against against fighters who tried to jab him all night.

        Originally posted by bigdunny1
        Through 6 rounds Khan was on pace to land just 40 jabs the ENTIRE fight at just 22% connect rate

        Khan vs Canelo
        88 Total jabs thrown
        20 Total jabs connected
        22% Percentage landed

        Smith vs Canelo
        195 Total jabs thrown
        47 Total jabs connected
        24% Percentage landed

        Lara vs Canelo
        246 Total jabs thrown
        55 Total jabs connected
        22% Percentage landed

        Trout vs Canelo
        416 Total jabs thrown
        59 Total jabs connected
        14% Percentage landed

        Where is this Canelo has trouble with the jab nonsense you speak of? His defense is WAYYYYY better then you giving him credit for especially his ability to slip and counter the jab which is why fighters are having career worse production and connect rate landing this punch against him. These numbers are what you see defensive wizards like Floyd doing to fighters.
        Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-09-2017, 03:25 PM.

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        • satiev1
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          #104
          Originally posted by bigdunny1
          Cotto is flat footed now? He is faster and more skilled then GGG. I also listed a ton of fighters who aren't flat footed like Khan, Lara, Trout
          No he's not. And yes in the gif you posted cotto is square up flat footed throwing a jab. GGG does not throw his jabs like that. GGG > cotto on ring iq and skill it's not even funny. Trout lara or khan don't have the jab ggg does and don't throw it with the same accuracy, volume, and power that ggg does. GGG has the best jab in the game bar none.

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          • satiev1
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            #105
            Originally posted by bigdunny1
            So Headshots just going to ignore that he went on and on that Canelo didn't slip and counter Chavez's jab? Begged for a gif and now quite? Please tell me again how Canelo can't counter jabs from taller fighters? Or guys with LONGER reaches then GGG. That's just one gif I can get you more but Canelo countering him time after time when he jabbed is why he refused to throw it anymore.
            Proving my point. Square up flat footed throwing a slow jab. GGG does not throw the jab like that. Watch the lemieux fight again. Canelo will not do a pull counter on ggg's jab.

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            • bigdunny1
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              #106
              Originally posted by satiev1
              Proving my point. Square up flat footed throwing a slow jab. GGG does not throw the jab like that. Watch the lemieux fight again. Canelo will not do a pull counter on ggg's jab.
              Khan squared up flat footed? He's got a slow jab? son please. Canelo did to Chavez what he's done to MANY fighters. Do you idiots realize Canelo defense against jabs is one of his best skillsets? Cotto is lightning fast on his feet and was moving all night long against Canelo and still he took away and countered his jab. P4P Cotto is far superior skilled fighter then GGG.

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                #107
                Originally posted by bigdunny1
                So Headshots just going to ignore that he went on and on that Canelo didn't slip and counter Chavez's jab? Begged for a gif and now quite? Please tell me again how Canelo can't counter jabs from taller fighters? Or guys with LONGER reaches then GGG. That's just one gif I can get you more but Canelo countering him time after time when he jabbed is why he refused to throw it anymore.


                that 1 shot proved nothing. that's a dead punching bag he's fighting.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by bigdunny1
                  Khan squared up flat footed? He's got a slow jab? son please


                  he was outboxing Canelo 4-0

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                  • bigdunny1
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by HeadShots
                    that 1 shot proved nothing. that's a dead punching bag he's fighting.
                    It proves you a liar you said those punches didn't happen now you trying to pivot the argument? LMAO

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                    • Shaolin Sword
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                      #110
                      Canelo's defensive skills are more flashy.

                      GGG's defensive skills are more subtle but they're highly effective.

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