Let's get something straight about a fighter's physical prime

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  • kafkod
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    #21
    It's hilarious how GGG haters have been adding years to his real age and talking bout him being "too old" for the past two years, and are now suddenly getting worried that "too old" could be seen as the reason for him losing to Canelo, if it happens!

    Let's cut the childish crap about "excuses" and look at the facts. For a pressure fighter who has had a long career, including 350 amateur fights - and does year round random PED testing with VADA - 35 is almost certainly past physical prime.

    Luckily for Golovkin and his fans though, there is a lot more to GGG's game than pure physicality. He is a very skilled and crafty boxer, and maybe still improving in those aspects of his game. He also relies a lot on punching power and strength, which both deteriorate more slowly than speed, reflexes and recovery rate.
    Last edited by kafkod; 05-08-2017, 06:15 AM.

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    • Scary
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      #22
      Originally posted by Redd Foxx
      Man, GG fans are freaking the fk out. Everyone was saying that GG would crush Nelo. Then Golovkin fights Jacobs and suddenly, "Remember, he's OLD!"
      Show some support for your guy. This is really a 50/50 fight. No need for excuses from either side. One is 35, the other is fighting a bigger guy for only the 2nd time.
      Thank you! GGG has been given soft touches his whole career

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      • RetroSpeed05
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        #23
        Originally posted by Redd Foxx
        Plenty of fighters have had their best fights in their 30's, don't be ignorant to what experience and development of skill can provide. I'm not saying 35 is beneficial or irrelevant but when the guy has shown no degradation in skill, the age thing reeks of excuse. Did he look old against Wade only a year ago? No. But, suddenly he happens to be slipping when he fights guys with actual skill? Come on.


        Fact is, it's now a 50/50 fight and some Golovkin fans are really uncomfortable with that.
        That makes it better if we dont know who would win. i dont wanna pay 70$ for GGG to trash him in a easy victory.

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        • Doctor_Tenma
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          #24
          Likely isn't in his physical prime but how are we suppose to measure his decline when he's faced lackluster opposition for the most part?

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          • LetOutTheCage
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            #25
            Originally posted by considerthis
            It doesn't need to be called an excuse...it just simply is what it is. I've always viewed the fight as being competitive, and still think ggg beats him. I take issue with people dismissing it as an "excuse" when his age is factored into the discussion about the fight.
            Agreed, i'm not sure why it's considered a controversial thing to say GGG at 35 probably isnt as good as GGG at 28. His last 2 fights have suggested a decline, that's an observation not an excuse. I still favour GGG to beat Canelo but not as strongly as I did say a year or 2 ago. There is a reason Canelo has waited this long to make the fight...

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            • Rip Chudd
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              #26
              Originally posted by Redd Foxx
              Thank you. I wanted to bring that up but thought no one would believe me. I wish I could remember the user names of the guys that said that^ **** because these fkers were insistent that, because GG had taken so little damage, that there was no reason why he wouldn't have longevity like hopkins.

              One time, I decided to start bookmarking the really ****** threads on here for occasions like this. But, I had to quit that shyt because after a couple weeks I must have had 30 bookmarks.
              surprised it wasn't more

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              • boliodogs
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                #27
                I agree completely. No boxer is in their physical prime at 35 years of age including Hopkins. A boxer might still be good enough to beat any fighter their weight at the age of 35 but they aren't as strong as they were at age 24 to 29.

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                • SplitSecond
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                  #28
                  I think at that age the problem isnt so much the physicality but the drop fo that high testosterone that gives you that exhilirating drive, thus a loss in killer instinct and being busy takes a lot more effort.

                  This is why fights with guys when they are old suck, like mayweather and pacquiao, in 2009-2010 that would have been a helll of a fight despite what some geniuses here think about it being destined to always be boring.
                  Last edited by SplitSecond; 05-08-2017, 08:14 AM.

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                  • Robbie Barrett
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                    #29
                    We don't know if he's declining. We have nothing to compare the Brook and Jacobs fights with. They were the most skilled fighters he's ever fought.

                    FIGHTERS DON'T USUALLY LOOK AS GOOD FIGHTING THE MOST SKILLED FIGHTERS THEY'VE EVER FOUGHT.

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                    • Doctor_Tenma
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      We don't know if he's declining. We have nothing to compare the Brook and Jacobs fights with. They were the most skilled fighters he's ever fought.

                      FIGHTERS DON'T USUALLY LOOK AS GOOD FIGHTING THE MOST SKILLED FIGHTERS THEY'VE EVER FOUGHT.
                      Exactly and people fail to realize this as well.

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