Let's get something straight about a fighter's physical prime

[Robbie Barrett]

Like i said...go look at the fights. Forget about the word measure, i can see you're hung up on it. I should have used judged or something like that. Anyway, I'm starting to see you don't know much about the sport. Why do you keep changing your name anyway?

Judge whatever. There was no clear physical decline. You're full of **** saying you can see it. What i saw was a guy fighting his most skilled opponents and struggling compared to what he usually does because of that.

If it was clear you'd have no problem presenting some evidence.

[Real King Kong]

I don't know how you can see that considering Golovkin was never quick or athletic to begin with. You probably will look like you lost a step when you fight your best opponents..... if he had fought Dominic Wade in a rematch instead of Jacobs I doubt you'd be making this thread.

Golovkin is past his physical prime most likely but his prime as a fighter? ..... we don't know and it doesn't help that he's fighting his 3 most accomplished and skilled opponents back to back to back. Golovkin being 35 is not the same as Roy Jones being 35.... Pacquaio being 37 or 38 is not the same as Marquez being 37 or 38.

No, I don't feel he's at his absolute peak as a fighter. Does that mean i think he's washed up?...no. People are taking this the wrong way, it's just something that should be brought into the discussion about the fight...nothing more. There seems to be a faction of haters that want to be able to say "told you so" when ggg takes a loss and are getting all wound up by the simple mention of ggg being 35. I personally thought he looked flat against dominic wade too...i made a thread about him being in decline after that fight....ggg fans accused me of being a hater.

[NaijaD]

No, I don't feel he's at his absolute peak as a fighter. Does that mean i think he's washed up?...no. People are taking this the wrong way, it's just something that should be brought into the discussion about the fight...nothing more. There seems to be a faction of haters that want to be able to say "told you so" when ggg takes a loss and are getting all wound up by the simple mention of ggg being 35. I personally thought he looked flat against dominic wade too...i made a thread about him being in decline after that fight....ggg fans accused me of being a hater.

Hmmm I see, I think Canelo wins a razor close one because of the timing of the fight maximises his chances, he's getting better whereas Golovkin has peaked. A year ago I would have picked Golovkin by late stoppage or decision.

If you thought Golovkin lost a step against Wade then I can't argue with your position as it's genuine but a lotta other posters have only recently taken that position alongside you leading to Canelo backers and other neutral posters dismissing you all in one group.

[Real King Kong]

Judge whatever. There was no clear physical decline. You're full of **** saying you can see it. What i saw was a guy fighting his most skilled opponents and struggling compared to what he usually does because of that.

If it was clear you'd have no problem presenting some evidence.

I can't make you see something you lack the knowledge to see. What exact evidence can i produce? Either you can see it or you can't. I acknowledge that his level of opposition plays a part, but i thought he looked flat against dominic wade...so we can't say it's just about opposition. All I'm saying is there's other factors outside opposition alone...could be that he was on peds before...who knows.

[Real King Kong]

Hmmm I see, I think Canelo wins a razor close one because of the timing of the fight maximises his chances, he's getting better whereas Golovkin has peaked. A year ago I would have picked Golovkin by late stoppage or decision.

If you thought Golovkin lost a step against Wade then I can't argue with your position as it's genuine but a lotta other posters have only recently taken that position alongside you leading to Canelo backers and other neutral posters dismissing you all in one group.

Well your reasoning for picking canelo kind of reinforces my point. I still pick ggg in this fight, but it should be a good competitive fight.