Comments Thread For: Canelo Unapologetic About Fighting Chavez at Catch-Weight

[rrayvez]

At that time there was a long line of boxers wanting to fight Floyd for big bucks. I think Canelo's people through that idea out there to get to the head of the line. Floyd then fought Guerrero and the PPV numbers were subpar. Canelo should have kept quite and would have gotten the Floyd fight anyway. He probably did feel drained, but the idea originated with Canelo's folks. As for the Cotto middleweight fight, I suspect that Canelo would have wanted to fight at a weight closer to 160, but Cotto was having none of that. Remember Cotto fully expected to win and a 155 catch weight would have given leverage if he decided to fight GGG. Though Canelo might be technically correct that Cotto wanted the 155 weight, the less said about that by Canelo the better for him.

Yeah, I think had Canelo and his team played their cards right, they could've gotten Floyd to agree to 154. Especially since Floyd made it such a point to say that cotto should've been considered undefeated when they fought in part due to the catch weight he fought pac at. As far as 155, Canelo was still playing that I'm not a mw and really a 154 pound fighter game. Had he fought cotto At 160,it would've been hard to use weight as a reason not to fight ggg which was his initial reasoning.

[Larry the boss]

164 is the magic number

[BrometheusBob.]

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[aboutfkntime]

You are right about that. It was a good weight for both. I suspect, though do not know for sure, that Canelo would have preferred a higher weight because he is the bigger of the two but then again that is pure conjecture on my part. I could tell you that everything I say is a fact and not and opinion, but I don't think that 2 people on planet earth would believe that --- not even me!

oh, you're probably right about that..... what I was meaning was, nobody was disadvantaged at 155..... it was the perfect compromise

155 was Canelo-weight, so no problem there..... and that fight would not have been sanctioned as a middleweight bout under 155..... so Cotto could not have picked a more suitable weight for him, for a middleweight fight

win/win

[Verus]

Yeah, I think had Canelo and his team played their cards right, they could've gotten Floyd to agree to 154. Especially since Floyd made it such a point to say that cotto should've been considered undefeated when they fought in part due to the catch weight he fought pac at. As far as 155, Canelo was still playing that I'm not a mw and really a 154 pound fighter game. Had he fought cotto At 160,it would've been hard to use weight as a reason not to fight ggg which was his initial reasoning.

Yep. I am old enough to remember when fans didn't gave two figs about weight because there were no catch weights or the purse that the fighters got or who was he A side or the B side because there were no A or B sides and in some cases it was the mob who determined who won and who lost before the fight even started. Anyway this silly business of weights and purse splits makes for good conversation as does the number of paper champs in each of the many divisions these days.

[Verus]

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[JASON SHAW]

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[Verus]

fyi- floyd almost stopped cotto in the 11th round with a right hook and uppercut... Most people dont remember that.... Also they fought at a full 154 pounds just like the oscar fight was at a full 154.... Manny vs cotto and oscar were both at catchweights of 145....

Floyd was not a freak about catch weights, but that was Manny's calling card. I don't know if it would have made any difference, but Cotto was drained for his fight with Pacman and Oscar looked and fought like a dead man walking.

[JASON SHAW]

floyd was not a freak about catch weights, but that was manny's calling card. I don't know if it would have made any difference, but cotto was drained for his fight with pacman and oscar looked and fought like a dead man walking.

exactly manny the catchweight king! So i wonder what floyd would have done to cotto at 145 if he wobbled him badly in the 11th at a full 154.... The oscar that floyd fought was in great shape and 15 pounds bigger than floyd on fight night....Manny even had fight night weight limits... Floyd never had that in any fight...

[aboutfkntime]

Yep. I am old enough to remember when fans didn't gave two figs about weight because there were no catch weights or the purse that the fighters got or who was he A side or the B side because there were no A or B sides and in some cases it was the mob who determined who won and who lost before the fight even started. Anyway this silly business of weights and purse splits makes for good conversation as does the number of paper champs in each of the many divisions these days.

that phenomenon started with Pacquiao

I have been involved/followed this sport for nearly 40 yrs

" manny-weight " (dragging the lil guys up and pulling the big guys down) became a negotiating point in every single fight..... like you, I don't recall catchweights being an acceptable part of a standard fight negotiation before Pac

" Manny little doe "

same with that A-side/B-side rubbish

that was a standard pacfan excuse to justify Manny manipulating weight and contractual advantages over his opponents

"A-side doe"

now that same fanbase primarily support Golovkin..... and yea, now they totally disagree with that A-side bullshht

oh, except when the conversation turns back to Andre Ward, that excuse still works nicely for him.....