Comments Thread For: Andre Ward's Perspective on Role Race Plays in How He is Covered

[miked85]

Lmfao at "he's boring" a lot of athletes are boring but allowed to prosper, **** Peyton manning was boring

People want Ward to go for the KO and show machismo to appeal to casuals FOH

[Szef]

Can't argue with a racist, you guys are illogical. Answer my question, would the crowd root for kovalev or ggg if ward and Jacobs were white?

Lmao case in point ^^

Can't come up with a reasonable answer?

'You're wacist '

[gmc_rfc_06]

Ward comes across as massively entitled and arrogant. Those are not personality traits that are particularly endearing.

It's not a race thing, he's not very likeable and he's boring. He also lost his last fight, got a gift decision and has the nerve to complain about it.

[jdp28tx]

Just because he can hold court and have conversations with the media expressing his opinions thoroughly doesn't mean he's not soft spoken

He's not doing a rant like Richard Sherman with anger

What fighter hasn't complained about this business and all it entails, unless they are happy with being ****d a la manny

The fact is a lot of Americans don't like seeing black athletes be challenging or engaging to the media with ideals and ideas that signify social mobility

Ward represents progress in a sick nasty boxing industry that is meant to exploit more than help

Complaining that your are not rich enough is not an ideal nor does it have anything to do with social mobility. Oh, I am a millionaire, but I deserve to be a multimillionaire is not the same thing as upward social mobility.

Plus I do not hear or see him doing anything for the black community like Mayweather does. Floyd, actually does things for poorer African Americans. I heard many stories about his generosity, but I have not heard anything about Ward doing such things, but that is the typical Christian. Ward is all about Ward using racism like an opportunist, only to his own benefit.

[jdp28tx]

Lmfao at "he's boring" a lot of athletes are boring but allowed to prosper, **** Peyton manning was boring

People want Ward to go for the KO and show machismo to appeal to casuals FOH

How is he not allowed to prosper? He is a millionaire is he not?

[miked85]

Wait

Just because he can hold court and have conversations with the media expressing his opinions thoroughly doesn't mean he's not soft spoken

He's not doing a rant like Richard Sherman with anger

What fighter hasn't complained about this business and all it entails, unless they are happy with being ****d a la manny

The fact is a lot of Americans don't like seeing black athletes be challenging or engaging to the media with ideals and ideas that signify social mobility

Ward represents progress in a sick nasty boxing industry that is meant to exploit more than help

How is he not allowed to prosper? He is a millionaire is he not?

Are u saying because a person reaches success, doesn't mean they can't face opposition, bias and be undermined off their race gender or religion?

Prejudice stops once u accumulate money?

Maybe he's made money in spite of racism

I thought this conversation is in context with his peers within boxing who some, also make millions, but don't face the backlash he does

I brought examples up earlier

[miked85]

Wtf

Complaining that your are not rich enough is not an ideal nor does it have anything to do with social mobility. Oh, I am a millionaire, but I deserve to be a multimillionaire is not the same thing as upward social mobility.

Plus I do not hear or see him doing anything for the black community like Mayweather does. Floyd, actually does things for poorer African Americans. I heard many stories about his generosity, but I have not heard anything about Ward doing such things, but that is the typical Christian. Ward is all about Ward using racism like an opportunist, only to his own benefit.

All about? What are u talking about, he gave he most diplomatic answer on a complex question and acknowleged the nuance that goes with race in boxing and discussing it

Not once did he complain in the article from Keith's quotes

And expressing the ills about the business and how it can be fine tuned, isn't complaining or whining

It seems like a lot of people don't wanna hear a black person's perspective on the boxing business, and potentially some favoritisms and roadblocks within it

Ward expresses that

U disagree? Fine

But don't act like he's being out of line expressing his opinion on state of things

[daggum]

Just because he can hold court and have conversations with the media expressing his opinions thoroughly doesn't mean he's not soft spoken

He's not doing a rant like Richard Sherman with anger

What fighter hasn't complained about this business and all it entails, unless they are happy with being ****d a la manny

The fact is a lot of Americans don't like seeing black athletes be challenging or engaging to the media with ideals and ideas that signify social mobility

Ward represents progress in a sick nasty boxing industry that is meant to exploit more than help

why is he complaining though? hes had everything in his favor from the get go. thats why its so insane how he could complain. just look at when he went to court. it was revealed his promoter wanted him to take the big money fights but he wanted easier opposition for the same money and thats why hbo shelved him. he expected easy fights simply for being andre ward.

americans dont know who ward is

no he represents more of the same dirty corruption, cherry picking, and taking advantage of a built in american fan base simply because one can. it took 5 million dollars just to get him in the ring with kovalev. thats insanity. thats a guaranteed loss of money. if he wasnt as entitled he never would have gotten that. do we really need more boxers who think they are god simply for doing what they are supposed to and only doing it when they are massively overpaid?

[miked85]

What this issue shows me...

Is that a lot of boxing fans don't mix and mingle enough, with other people outside their circle, if whatever sort


Me personally, I think a lot of white folks would benefit of going to black barbershops, Gerri g your hair cut there, and engaging with other dudes about everyday ****, fun or not topics, gain another perspective up close and personal and see where that person is coming from


And then ask yourself "hmmmm I wonder why they feel that way or look at it like that"


If you completely write Ward off, EVEN THO HE HAS A BIRACIAL family upbringing and can see the world from both sides

Then you're just a hater not willing to engage

[miked85]

Ummmm

why is he complaining though? hes had everything in his favor from the get go. thats why its so insane how he could complain. just look at when he went to court. it was revealed his promoter wanted him to take the big money fights but he wanted easier opposition for the same money and thats why hbo shelved him. he expected easy fights simply for being andre ward.

americans dont know who ward is

no he represents more of the same dirty corruption, cherry picking, and taking advantage of a built in american fan base simply because one can

You'd have to pull up quotes and documents from his lawsuit on his grievances with his former promoter cause it's surely not as simple as how u proclaim it

And since when do boxers work for promoters?
We should be championing the boxer to spearhead his career not promoters control them

You're supposed to hire the promoter and have them promote you

This is why manny pacquiao is being shipped to Jeff horn, no control


Imagine that, a legend, can't dictate his career


Maybe, just maybe, Ward doesn't wanna end up like that