Comments Thread For: Andre Ward's Perspective on Role Race Plays in How He is Covered

[jdp28tx]

Funny how you would talk about how the European and Russians were mistreated but I bet you won't talk about slavery in your own country that way. Here's a question to ponder on, if Ward or Jacobs were white, at the elite level as they currently are, do you think that the crowd would still root for Kovalev and GGG?

Funny, I do not see you defending the Taino people who were wiped out by Columbus. Or any other Native American tribes which all experienced genocide by Western Europeans or Americans. You see there is always a people who have been mistreated and killed to the point of extinction.

[jdp28tx]

Can't argue with a racist, you guys are illogical. Answer my question, would the crowd root for kovalev or ggg if ward and Jacobs were white?

Yes they would. And anyone with a different point of view is a racist to you. You are the only racist here. Boiling everything wrong in boxing down to racism. Hell I have experienced racism on many occasions, but I do not see it around every corner and use it as an excuse for everything.

[HURTFEELINGS]

They are not honest with themselves, as you see They ignore the truth and cant even talk honestly about it. They (not all)see things through a different lens, because they dont even believe racism exists, because they've been denying its existence and that would mean that they were wrong, and you cant convince someone that they were wrong, even with facts ex. now instead of admitting you were wrong, with evidence to back it up, you have "alternative facts" just to avoid the truth. Look at mike lee, he had a subway commercial when there where more deserving, accomplished boxers. We see the comments on here daily, we see comments on social media daily......but to them with evidence THEY deny, these are alternative facts, not truth. They held up a gold medal winning Mexican drug abusing cross dresser, over a gold medal winning black american who is religious.

[TheUptownKid]

Typical strawman argument u r trying to use. I do know that 20 million Russians were murdered by Germany. Just because blacks were treated horribly by American whites does not mean they were the only peoples to ever have been enslaved or experienced prejudice. This claim that African Americans were enslaved across the globe is yet another ignorant statement. If you knew history you would know that slavery was outlawed by many countries decades even centuries before America's Civil War

This statement makes no sense:
"for more time since 1492 than they've been considered citizens"

1492 is an American centrist date true but slavery was abolished in Britain in 1803, 315 years after that date. 1803 was 214 years ago. Abolishment occurred in 1778 in Scotland 1783 in Russia I can go on. Know your history. Be aware. Don't argue based on emotion, it's less effective.

[daggum]

"I dont get the benefit of the doubt" -Andre Ward

ultimate trolling complete!

[TheUptownKid]

Typical strawman argument u r trying to use. I do know that 20 million Russians were murdered by Germany. Just because blacks were treated horribly by American whites does not mean they were the only peoples to ever have been enslaved or experienced prejudice. This claim that African Americans were enslaved across the globe is yet another ignorant statement. If you knew history you would know that slavery was outlawed by many countries decades even centuries before America's Civil War

This statement makes no sense:
"for more time since 1492 than they've been considered citizens"

And Germany was punished, extensively, for its WAR CRIMES. ****** received no compensation and their conflict lasted longer than a 10 year war. It lasted 300+ years, which is long enough to firmly entrench inferiority views upon a people.

[jdp28tx]

[QUOTE=HURTFEELINGS;17590506]They are not honest with themselves, as you see They ignore the truth and cant even talk honestly about it. They (not all)see things through a different lens, because they dont even believe racism exists, because they've been denying its existence and that would mean that they were wrong, and you cant convince someone that they were wrong, even with facts ex. now instead of admitting you were wrong, with evidence to back it up, you have "alternative facts" just to avoid the truth. Look at mike lee, he had a subway commercial when there where more deserving, accomplished boxers. We see the comments on here daily, we see comments on social media daily......but to them with evidence THEY deny, these are alternative facts, not truth. They held up a gold medal winning Mexican drug abusing cross dresser, over a gold medal winning black american who is religious. [/QUOT
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Your complaining about racism and acting morally superior, but then you use obvious racist phrase, Mexican drug abusing cross dresser. You are showing prejudice against Mexicans and prejudice against gay people. I guess the only racism that exists in your mind is when it goes against your own kind.

[jdp28tx]

1492 is an American centrist date true but slavery was abolished in Britain in 1803, 315 years after that date. 1803 was 214 years ago. Abolishment occurred in 1778 in Scotland 1783 in Russia I can go on. Know your history. Be aware. Don't argue based on emotion, it's less effective.

Of all people u r the one arguing on emotion, This is the 1st time you tried to use historical facts, but I do not see the point in them because they have no weight on your arguments. It just seems like u looked up wikipedia real quick and decided to use your newly acquired knowledge. You know the saying a little knowledge can be dangerous in the hands of some people

[cameltoe]

Ward is on point at the end here, talking about how Kovalev will get the benefit of the doubt.

Consider their first fight- most people who had it for Kovalev had him winning clearly. Those who had it for Ward saw him win a narrow decision. Why is that? That's the soft landing he's talking about. HBO are as much to blame as anyone.

[kafkod]

Imo, Ward is not as popular in his own country as a guy with his record should be because of his style of fighting. He isn't just defensive, he's defensive in a way which is not entertaining or exciting to watch, and that's just the truth.

Floyd was a defensive fighter. But, in his prime, Floyd used reflexes, speed and asthleticism for his defence, as well as technique, which made him entertaining, exciting and got him a big fan base.

Floyd held out the race card to Ward and invited him to play it, and Ward brushed him off. Credit to Andre for keeping it real on this complicated issue.