Comments Thread For: Is GGG Losing Spunk or Was Jacobs as Crafty as He Appeared?

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  • Metho_4u
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    #31
    Originally posted by Mirus
    Like GGG, Canelo also has problems with slick boxers. What I said doesn't contradict that everyone has problems with slick boxers. Your comment is BS.
    No, it's a general statement that pretty much ALL fighters have a hard time with slick boxers...are you able to comprehend that?

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    • FinitoxDinamita
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      #32
      I dont see anything too crafty about Jacobs. He is just a fast fighter with power who also came in big and GGG couldnt deal with him like he did with all the bums in the past. On top of that ggg was facing somebody who was not scared and highly motivated so we really cant knock on him.

      You cant look good against everybody but he still got the job done.

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      • PunchyPotorff
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        #33
        "Is GGG Losing Spunk or Was Jacobs as Crafty as He Appeared?"

        Obviously it's a bit of both. The guy is not quite as good as his fanboys think he is, and a little better than his haters think he is. But make no mistake, grind on Danny all you want, but that's a fool's game. Danny did a bunch of things in there that made GGG hesitate and play it safe. And he fooled him with the switching back and forth. A rematch would be even more interesting IMO. But as for Canelo, I don't see GGG getting past that one... if for no other reason than Canelo (like all upcoming GGG opponents) is making notes of GGG's defects. Which is great news for we boxing fans. The boxing future's so bright... GGG will be wearing shades.

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        • OnePunch
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          #34
          Originally posted by harwri008
          I have been saying all along Golovkin was mediocre. The only time I gave him credit was against Lemieux. As I watched the fight again I realized Lemieux was atrocious in that fight. His movement was so predictable Golovkin saw everything coming. With that being said I picked him to beat Jacobs because his chin was still questionable and I wasn't sure he would be able to hold up for 12 rounds. Bottom line is Golovkin looked unstoppable against mediocre opponents. Jacobs amateur pedigree and having the fight of his life proved once again that it's the level of competition that determine if a fighter is truly great.
          So Jacobs fought the "fight of his life", but the guy who beat him is only "mediocre"?

          So what does that make Jacobs?

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          • HarvardBlue
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            #35
            Originally posted by OnePunch
            So Jacobs fought the "fight of his life", but the guy who beat him is only "mediocre"?

            So what does that make Jacobs?
            No one ever said Jacobs was the "next big thing" in boxing. No one ever considered Jacobs an P4P elite boxer. You don't have whole network dedicated to furthering the career of Danny Jacobs.

            Yet he was able to make Golovkin look less than spectacular. This was never about Jacobs' skills, it was was about Golovkin's legacy. It's been ordinary so far but some people want us all to think we're seeing something special. He's not that special.

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            • steeve steel
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              #36
              Jacobs was huge and fighting for his life. GGG had an off night. And still he beat him. So...

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              • IMDAZED
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                #37
                Losing spunk?

                Anyone who wasn't on their knees could see he was a fine, but overhyped, champion. Beating guys like Lemieux never impressed me.

                And no, I never thought Jacobs stood a chance. He's a good guy and fighter but nowhere near elite.

                So why do we need to hold some sort of tribunal to discuss why GGG was made to look ordinary by the best fighter he's ever faced, a fighter who wasn't ranked in the top 50 anywhere? Those who aren't trolls reaize that he was never that great to begin with. There's no mystery that needs to be solved here. But in boxing today, going life and death with a decent fighter is enough to be awarded the p4p crown. It's almost comical. Fight fans need to stop blindly following a bad script for the sake of winning an internet argument and start being honest with yourselves and others.

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                • icha
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by harwri008
                  No one ever said Jacobs was the "next big thing" in boxing. No one ever considered Jacobs an P4P elite boxer. You don't have whole network dedicated to furthering the career of Danny Jacobs.

                  Yet he was able to make Golovkin look less than spectacular. This was never about Jacobs' skills, it was was about Golovkin's legacy. It's been ordinary so far but some people want us all to think we're seeing something special. He's not that special.
                  Best post so far...

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                  • ThomasJK
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                    #39
                    Jacobs was crafty coming into this fight. No doubt about it. The weight game, the reach, hand-speed, and switching stances. But none of that mattered because he stepped into the ring with a superior fighter with just as impressive of a resume (amateur and pro) and lost the bout. GGG came to the fight as a better conditioned and smarter boxer. His conditioning showed in the later rounds as evident in the continued pressuring of DJ. Jacobs really had no answer aside from a few low hit percentage flurries, and was gassing out fast. That's why GGG didn't go to the body. He was head hunting for a reason. The KO. Had the fight gone a few more rounds (old school 15) He would have floored DJ again.
                    I'm a fan of both GGG and Daniel Jacobs and I believe they both have a lot left in them to continue on in the sport. Moreso for DJ as he is younger. Whether they rematch a fight or not, they both have very lucrative and championship levels prospect fights in the future. Once GGG claims all of the MW belts, he will have the leverage to call the shots and more negotiating power with the canelos of the boxing world. And I hope he moves up one division and shows the haters he can fight bigger men just as well as the MW division. With DJ's age, I see him moving up to LHW or even CW before it's all said and done. Perhaps he would even fight Kovo or Ward at some point. That would be cool. DJ is a big man and melting down to 160 just doesn't seem to be to his advantage with top level competition, and it will continually get harder for him as he gets older. I watched the Quillen fight and fully expected him to win that as I feel Quillen was a hype job and not top level competition,....I just didn't see it coming so fast!! I still laugh when I remember seeing Quillen all stilt legged with that "WTF just happened" look on his face. I seriously doubt DJ will lose much speed and flashiness if he decides to move up one or two divisions.
                    Last edited by ThomasJK; 03-25-2017, 10:41 AM. Reason: spelling and poor typing!!

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                    • SweetPbfAli
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by DeLorean
                      if somebody believes GGG is fading you're basically not giving Danny any credit.

                      the reason it was close is because GGG respected Jacobs power and handspeed. notice he never went to the body fearing the speedy Jacobs would counter.

                      Willie Monroe is actually a great mover that's hard to hit. but GGG never feared the consequences of walking through his punches.

                      being fast with great legs is not enough, you gotta have enough power to make GGG think twice.

                      this is why I think he would maul Lara. but Ward has underrated power and is an animal at close range, that would've been a loss for GGG but he wisely ducked him. its all good.

                      Canelo has faster hands and better reflexes than Jacobs. he rehydrates bigger and is very explosive in the pocket with combinations. GGG will have his hands full.
                      I agree but I do think the movement is important against GG and Canelo has very heavy feet and doesn't really prefer to lead.

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