Comments Thread For: Is GGG Losing Spunk or Was Jacobs as Crafty as He Appeared?

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  • Dip_Slide
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    #51
    Originally posted by Thraxox
    That's why I would suggest Canelo to avoid the Lemmy fight. What would Canelo do if the bigger and stronger Lemieux would have him on the ropes and start attacking the body? He may have the hands to counter him but does he have the feet to get away?

    Lemeiux has the chin to hold up against big punchers and has the power to spark every MW out there not named GGG.
    David Lemieux is aggressive and he fights good moving forward but his fundamentals are C level, him not being able to catch or parry or slip a single jab against GGG and his very poor defense are great flaws, he can also be stopped to the head and to the body, and against a crafty strong counterpuncher with handspeed like Canelo it might end up being like Canelo vs Angulo or even Canelo vs Kirkland, it all depends on Canelo's ability to take a punch at 160 and his stamina carrying the extra weight. Maybe not having to cut so much weight would even improve these things in Canelo, Lemieux is also a high pace type fighter and fighters moving up are used to fighting at a higher pace than bigger guys, we just have to wait and see.

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    • Chuckguy
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      #52
      Originally posted by SweetPbfAli
      It's not even clever what you just did. Let's try another way. Jacobs was an 8-1 underdog and beat the "great" pound for pound GG.
      Maidana was a 14-1 underdog and beat the P4P #1 in Floyd
      I'm using the same logic as you are

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      • Blackclouds
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        #53
        This is why fans want to see these fighters fight tough fights because it exposes flaws lower tier competition cannot expose. That said Jacobs should've gotten the nod. I hope golovkin enjoys his gift.

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        • mick1303
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          #54
          Originally posted by jackblack008
          I am all wfor Conelo vs GGG in 2018
          Yeah, 2020 will be even better...

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          • thack
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            #55
            Bit of both......but J. was fab.

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            • JDupree
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              #56
              like what you said.

              Jacobs is a great boxer with cracking power, great movement, and HUGE (big, TALL, and Lengthy).

              Canelo is a great counter puncher with good power. He's not a great mover, He comes in fights heavy BUT he is not tall or lengthy... I think Jacobs destroys Canelo. I think Jacobs is a way better match up to beat Canelo.

              I think GGG beats Canelo in a close fight unless he catches him. I would also worry about the Judging if this fight is in Las Vegas. GGG will be able to cut him off and will be able to fight him inside and work his body. Jacobs really did a great job preventing GGG from working his body. Canelo however loves how GGG come straight in. Perfect for Canelo's style he is going to have tons of opportunities.
              Last edited by JDupree; 03-25-2017, 01:18 PM.

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              • Progrssive_Jedi
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                #57
                Anyone who speaks in absolutes about one fight needs to take on another Sport

                GGG didn't fight his normal fight, that was evident from the beginning. He spent far too much time not sobering when he could and spent too much head hunting.

                We outlanded Jacobs and won clearly. Jacobs didn't dominate any one round while ggg dominated a few.

                Jacobs came in very heavy and that played a part. Jacobs hit hard when he didn't blow up north if 180. They had no idea what to expect when he did. He had 38 hours to rehydrate and skipped both the weigh in.

                Those who want to deny that was part also claim ggg only beat Brook because of size and that ggg would only beat Canelo for same reason.


                In the future I expect GGG to do what Floyd has, and don't give up complete weight advantages when guys can blow up 25 pounds and ggg is held down by the title.

                But in reality, the size May of made him fight more timid, it was the other fights on the line that made him too careful.

                GGG doesn't owe Jacobs a rematch any more than Canelo owed one to Lara. But if he does grant it, I fully expect Golovkin to make damn sure to close the gap in weight and penalize Jacobs for coming in above 180. Rehydrating 20 pounds in itself is absurd.

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                • Progrssive_Jedi
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Blackclouds
                  This is why fans want to see these fighters fight tough fights because it exposes flaws lower tier competition cannot expose. That said Jacobs should've gotten the nod. I hope golovkin enjoys his gift.
                  Based on what! Surviving. Landing the fewer shots in fewer rounds. Doing much less damage. Getting knocked down and hurt without ever hurting your opponent.

                  I suspect most who want to say ggg lost base it off what he didn't do, not what Jacobs did.

                  Ward was gifted a win, that's for sure. Jacobs had every advantage in the world and still loss.

                  That's a fact you're going to have to get used to.

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                  • steeve steel
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by SweetPbfAli
                    It's not even clever what you just did. Let's try another way. Jacobs was an 8-1 underdog and beat the "great" pound for pound GG.
                    Not quite...How about this: Jacobs, being a huge underdog, decided to voluntarily miss second day weigh in, and managed to have one of his best performances ever against a champion who, although having an off night, still pulled through and came out with the victory!

                    There. That's more like it. I think you'll be pleased with this rephrasing. I know i am... considering english is my second language.

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                    • Luilun
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
                      GGG didn't fight his normal fight, that was evident from the beginning. He spent far too much time not sobering when he could and spent too much head hunting.

                      We outlanded Jacobs and won clearly. Jacobs didn't dominate any one round while ggg dominated a few.

                      Jacobs came in very heavy and that played a part. Jacobs hit hard when he didn't blow up north if 180. They had no idea what to expect when he did. He had 38 hours to rehydrate and skipped both the weigh in.

                      Those who want to deny that was part also claim ggg only beat Brook because of size and that ggg would only beat Canelo for same reason.


                      In the future I expect GGG to do what Floyd has, and don't give up complete weight advantages when guys can blow up 25 pounds and ggg is held down by the title.

                      But in reality, the size May of made him fight more timid, it was the other fights on the line that made him too careful.

                      GGG doesn't owe Jacobs a rematch any more than Canelo owed one to Lara. But if he does grant it, I fully expect Golovkin to make damn sure to close the gap in weight and penalize Jacobs for coming in above 180. Rehydrating 20 pounds in itself is absurd.
                      And test for VADA which Jacobs refused

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