Lemieux cheated. Jacobs didn't cheat by skipping the 2nd day weigh-in

[vman075]

Lemieux did agree to fight for one belt, the IBF regional belt which required a second day weigh in. Jacobs agreed to fight for two belts, WBC & WBA, neither requires a second day weigh in. GGG has to defend his IBF title. If Jacobs said he wasn't fighting for the IBF 3 months ago it doesn't matter because GGG still has to defend the IBF and make the second day weigh in. He has no other option. Well he could drop the belt but we all know he isn't going to do that.

No he doesn't. The WBA didn't sanction the Brook fight but the fight went on so he just defended the WBC and IBF belts. If it was the IBF instead of the WBA that didn't sanction it, he would not have had to defend the IBF belt which means he wouldn't have had to follow their rules. Which is my point. If Jacobs told the IBF that he didn't want to fight for their belt, they wouldn't have sanction the fight, he wouldn't have been defending it, and he wouldn't have had to weigh in again.

[Robbie Barrett]

You know it is possible to fight for one belt right? Like Jacobs could have just said I'm the WBA mando, that's all I want to fight for and then this fight would not have been sanctioned by the WBC or the IBF. However, if he did that, a second day weigh in would not have been necessary for GGG, bc his IBF title wasn't on the line making your argument completely wrong. The fact is the only reason the IBF came off the table is because he didn't show up. Everthing he did is exactly the same as Lemiuex did.

When the opponent opts out of paying sanctioning fees and the chance to win that title, the title holders title is usually still on the line. It just becomes vacant if he loses.

[Ce1ska]

He changed his mind. GGG still has to weigh in on the second day regardless of what Jacobs chooses to do.

Ok, so you're saying he originally agreed to fight for the IBF title but changed his mind after he couldn't make weight on the second day. Ok.

[Ce1ska]

No he doesn't. The WBA didn't sanction the Brook fight but the fight went on so he just defended the WBC and IBF belts. If it was the IBF instead of the WBA that didn't sanction it, he would not have had to defend the IBF belt which means he wouldn't have had to follow their rules. Which is my point. If Jacobs told the IBF that he didn't want to fight for their belt, they wouldn't have sanction the fight, he wouldn't have been defending it, and he wouldn't have had to weigh in again.

[Robbie Barrett]

No he doesn't. The WBA didn't sanction the Brook fight but the fight went on so he just defended the WBC and IBF belts. If it was the IBF instead of the WBA that didn't sanction it, he would not have had to defend the IBF belt which means he wouldn't have had to follow their rules. Which is my point. If Jacobs told the IBF that he didn't want to fight for their belt, they wouldn't have sanction the fight, he wouldn't have been defending it, and he wouldn't have had to weigh in again.

Damn that guy just got

[Motorcity Cobra]

this is too ****** to be posted. so GGG has to make weight while jacobs doesn't?

or both, lemieux and jacobs cheated, or they didn't. which is it?

Yes, if GGG wants to keep his IBF belt he has to weigh in regardless of what his opponent decides to do. Stevens had the option to weigh in or not. GGG doesn't have that option. Comprende?

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No he doesn't. The WBA didn't sanction the Brook fight but the fight went on so he just defended the WBC and IBF belts. If it was the IBF instead of the WBA that didn't sanction it, he would not have had to defend the IBF belt which means he wouldn't have had to follow their rules. Which is my point. If Jacobs told the IBF that he didn't want to fight for their belt, they wouldn't have sanction the fight, he wouldn't have been defending it, and he wouldn't have had to weigh in again.

They still would've sanctioned the fight. You posted the rules yourself.

[Robbie Barrett]

This proves Motorcity right. The IBF had to be on the line and Golovkin had to do the same day weigh-in or he would have been stripped.

[Zaryu]

GGG is not giving up his belt on the scales. Stevens had the option of skipping. I don't know if he would've skipped it or not. GGG doesn't have that option. Comprende?

Claro que comprendo mi hermano, creo que la mejor pregunta es cuanto verdaderente usted esta entendiendo. La opcion para GGG estuvo ahi al igual que para Stevens, perder el titulo o no es irrelevante. Ambos tenian la opcion de abandonar el pesjae del IBF, la unica diferencia serian las consecuencias, con GGG teniendo mas que perder que Stevens.

[Zaryu]

Abel expected GGG to come in at 170 so don't think this had any effect on him.

Agree, I don't think it matters

[Ce1ska]

Claro que comprendo mi hermano, creo que la mejor pregunta es cuanto verdaderente usted esta entendiendo. La opcion para GGG estuvo ahi al igual que para Stevens, perder el titulo o no es irrelevante. Ambos tenian la opcion de abandonar el pesjae del IBF, la unica diferencia serian las consecuencias, con GGG teniendo mas que perder que Stevens.

¿verdaderente?