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  • bigdunny1
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    #121
    In order to make this fight happen, Triple-G [Golovkin] has to sign the contract,” De LaHoya said. “The problem is his people have the contract and, most likely, he has no idea or no clue what’s going on."

    There appears to be some confusion with respect to a potential showdown between Gennady Golovkin (36-0, 33 KOs) and Canelo Alvarez (48-1-1, 34 KOs). Golovkin claims that he's never sign a contract to fight Canelo in the fall, while Canelo's promoter, Golden Boy Promotions CEO Oscar De La Hoya, maintains that a contract was sent and they are waiting for Golovkin to put his signature on paper.


    GGG saying he ain't seen it means either GGG is lying or his promoter lied when he said it was received. Somebody in the GGG camp has to be lying. But if GGG ain't seen the offer then he needs to grow some balls and take over control of his career to see what the offer is and sign.
    Last edited by bigdunny1; 03-17-2017, 07:48 PM.

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    • Motorcity Cobra
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      #122
      Originally posted by Jubei
      So you are accusing Loeffler of lying to GGG and deny a totally "fair offer" for a BINDING GUARANTEED SEPTEMBER 2017 FIGHT that would make GGG $15 Million?

      Why does Eric Gomez say the numbers are inaccurate?

      Why does Oscar keep talking about rematching Chavez in September?

      Who is more trustworthy, Dela Hoya whose company depends on this one fighter, who already dropped the belt and lied to the public for 2 years or Tom Loeffler?

      You cant be ****in serious if you insist there is a fair offer for a September fight. I pity you.
      Oscar says he sent the contract.

      GGG says he hasn't seen a contract

      Loeffler says he sent over a counteroffer

      What was Loeffler counteroffering? THE CONTRACT OSCAR AND GOLDEN BOY SENT OVER!!!!

      Serious question. Is English your first language?

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        #123
        Originally posted by daggum
        i see people contiunue to say they offered ggg 15 million over an over as if thats a fact... we just did the same thing with the ggg-jacobs fight. ggg offered jacobs 3 million and he turned it down! turned out that wasn't true so why don't we learn from our past mistakes and stop pretending we know what the offers are? your argument is k2 hasn't disputed it! probably because it was a rumor. and at first it was 10 mill and now its 15. so one of them has to be wrong if not both. we get it you hate ggg.
        How high the number is still unknown, but it is pretty well believed that Golden Boy's offer to K2 for Golovkin was in excess of $10m.

        The money disclosed to the NYSAC has the guaranteed money split 59/41 Golovkin, with no mention of any possible share split on the PPV (with Haymon negotiating the terms, on a fight that was set for open bid, I'm fairly certain that he was able to also get Jacobs a piece of the PPV money). Whatever Jacobs' total package ends up being worth is still unknown, but he starts off the whole thing with a $1.75m check heading his way after the fight.

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        • daggum
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          #124
          Originally posted by bigdunny1
          Jacobs is the reason why negotiations were a pain and dragged on for months even though Jacobs has no history of being difficult to deal with? While GGG has had problems with Jacobs, Canelo, Ward, Froch, and the list goes on and on. You name a big fight GGG has been attached to for the last 5 years and none got made. That's on K2 it can't ALWAYS be someone else's fault when the someone else keeps changing and problems making fight for GGG keep emerging. We see the purses now and they don't justify GGG losing out on 2 payday through March. That's just a bad job by K2 no matter how you spin it and one of many questionable moves by K2 like refusing to take a 15m offer. It's not like GGG is some young kid he's 35 clock ticking already wasted most of his career. And he's not a PPV star with big money fights on standby.
          ok.....so you ignore the facts when they dont suit you? jacobs trainer said they weren't ready to fight. jacobs was obv the one stalling negotiations as he wound up with 41 percent which is more than he originally asked for in public.

          you simply can't blaim any of the fighters you like. its just not possible for you. its always the others guys fault no matter the facts so why even post? just give us the list of the guys you like so next time there is a floyd, ward, jacobs, etc...thread we can create an auto-dunn post that says it wasn't their fault it was the other guys fault post that keeps repeating itself over and over

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            #125
            Originally posted by daggum
            canelo made 3.5 mill in his last 2 fights so should he fire golden boy because they arent doing right by their fighter! canelo the biggest star in boxing making only slightly more than lil b-side ggg! does the logic every kick in? or does it get stuck somewhere? it takes 2 to make a big fight. something floyd fans just never learned. omg its floyd he should get all the money because its floyd!
            Your an idiot. It's already been pointed out Canelo has one of the largest Mexican TV deals in history. 18m tuned into Azteca TV to watch the Smith fight you think he's not paid for that? Also was paid millions to be the face of Tecate. Let me know these network TV deals that GGG got and major sponsors? There is no PPV upside he sold only 100k his only other PPV and this fight his promoter is so confident that it will succeed that he's refusing to give a prediction on PPV numbers. He aint getting nothing but his fight night check. Canelo makes money GGG ain't seeing without him. Canelo making more money fighting Chavez then GGG probably has made his entire career. He needs to fight Canelo to get a real paycheck not the other way around.
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              #126
              Originally posted by bigdunny1
              Your an idiot. It's already been pointed out Canelo has one of the largest Mexican TV deals in history. 18m tuned into Azteca TV to watch the Smith fight you think he's not paid for that? Also was paid millions to be the face of Tecate. Let me know these network TV deals that GGG got and major sponsors? There is no PPV upside he sold only 100k his only other PPV and this fight his promoter is so confident that it will succeed that he's refusing to give a prediction on PPV numbers. He aint getting nothing but his fight night check. Canelo makes money GGG ain't seeing without him. Canelo making more money fighting Chavez then GGG probably has made his entire career. He needs to fight Canelo to get a real paycheck not the other way around.
              ggg has other sponsors as well such as nike and samsung. pay attention. those arent as high class as tecate beer lmao!

              more speculation from a rampant speculator.

              they dont need each other? well sure canelo can keep figthing chavez jr over and over or he can go back to the liam smiths and khans and make 3.5 million a fight.

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              • Jubei
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                #127
                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                Oscar says he sent the contract.

                GGG says he hasn't seen a contract

                Loeffler says he sent over a counteroffer

                What was Loeffler counteroffering? THE CONTRACT OSCAR AND GOLDEN BOY SENT OVER!!!!

                Serious question. Is English your first language?
                Why do you ignore all my questions and just post the same trash again?

                You know what, you are not ******ed, but you waste your time playing totally dumb because it suits your agenda. You must be extremely bored to use your energy on all that bullshit.. and seriously i'm done with it/you.

                There is a certain very small group that creates this alternate reality, while obviously ignoring a ton of facts, and some people are just too dumb to realize it and ride with it. Some are clever enough to do but they act ****** enough since they are able to manipulate other ******s with it and feel funny, cool or even powerful, like you do.

                Do whatever you want buddy, shame on you though, wasting your energy for negative shit and trolling all day long.

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                • daggum
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                  #128
                  is the dunn-defendo-o bot ready yet? shouldn't be too hard to match his intellect. maybe swap out an old commodre 64 cpu for his brain. set its behavior to "pure speculation" and set him loose in boxingscene making up things and wildly speculating about the business of boxing. oh wait the bots already been on here.....for years.

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                  • bigdunny1
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    ggg has other sponsors as well such as nike and samsung. pay attention. oh wait hes doing that for free probably. those arent as high class as tecate beer lmao!

                    more speculation from a rampant speculator.

                    they dont need each other? well sure canelo can keep figthing chavez jr over and over or he can go back to the liam smiths and khans and make 3.5 million a fight.
                    Dude seriously you comparing his little deals to Canelo? Notice I said major sponsors. Tecate paid to make Canelo the official spokesman for the company something no other athlete has been for Tecate. They air national commercials with Canelo in it during programming that has NOTHING to do with boxing and on non sports channels. Not just in Mexico either these air in the US. I have NEVER seen a GGG commercial for anything but I know Tecate pays Canelo more and I never heard about any significant money he makes from sponsors. I doubt he makes seven figures for anything outside a fight check.

                    Originally posted by Scipio2009
                    Alvarez's guarantee was what it was, but Alvarez owns the Mexico TV deal, and his company's relationship with Golden Boy is a deal where his final take is 80% of the US money (after costs), on a fight that ended up selling over $5m at the live gate, and clearing another $10m off of the PPV (after giving the distributors/HBO their share).

                    If you really believe that Alvarez only got $3.5m on the Liam Smith fight, you're a fool.

                    Alvarez controls his events; if his 80% of the take deal ends up with him getting $100m, so be it; Alvarez has the proven business history to get that demand.

                    Golovkin doesn't
                    THIS ^^^^ Idiots what the phuk do you think Canelo Promotions is for? He owns a major piece of the event.

                    Originally posted by Scipio2009
                    K2 signed Golovkin, Golovkin has no promotional operation of his own, and any talk of fight business related to Golovkin always has K2 speaking on Golovkin's behalf.

                    The information is likely a pain to hunt down, but there's no source (outside of maybe Golovkin's endorsement deal with Jordan brand and his Kazakh sponsorship) where Golovkin, or anyone close to Golovkin, is at the forefront of a boxing business deal involving Golovkin.
                    Nobody gives a phuk about any small time deals he has back is bum kazakstan. That ain't real paper. The money these guys get from their fights aren't in the same ball park.
                    Last edited by bigdunny1; 03-17-2017, 08:09 PM.

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                    • Motorcity Cobra
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Jubei
                      Why do you ignore all my questions and just post the same trash again?

                      You know what, you are not ******ed, but you waste your time playing totally dumb because it suits your agenda. You must be extremely bored to use your energy on all that bullshit.. and seriously i'm done with it/you.

                      There is a certain very small group that creates this alternate reality, while obviously ignoring a ton of facts, and some people are just too dumb to realize it and ride with it. Some are clever enough to do but they act ****** enough since they are able to manipulate other ******s with it and feel funny, cool or even powerful, like you do.

                      Do whatever you want buddy, shame on you though, wasting your energy for negative shit and trolling all day long.
                      Simple question. If there was no contract, why did Loeffler say he sent a counteroffer? According to you there is no offer. According to De La Hoya & Loeffler there is an offer. You're the one living in an alternate reality.

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