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  • aboutfkntime
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    #111
    Originally posted by kafkod
    "I made a number of accusations"

    Nope, you made up your own fictitious version of reality and got angry about it, same as you always do.

    I am not the guy who is in denial

    keep pretending that lil'G did not attempt to force a purse-bid in order to gain an unfair/undeserved financial advantage over the SUPERSTAR Canelo, rather than negotiate in good faith

    keep pretending that is how you make a fight with a SUPERSTAR

    keep pretending lil'G did not refuse a FORTUNE to fight Canelo

    keep pretending that lil'G did not duck Ward

    keep pretending I cannot provide links to prove those facts

    keep pretending you care about boxing more than you care about Golovkin

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    • kafkod
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      #112
      What is it about Golovkin that makes crazy people so angry?

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      • Jewish-Reptile
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        #113
        Originally posted by kafkod
        What is it about Golovkin that makes crazy people so angry?
        It's a peculiar one.

        Personally I think he's awesome but he's light years ahead of his nearest challenger (Jacobs) and I don't even see Canelo being competitive. I'm excited to see JCCJ vs Canelo as I feel it's competitive, I feel Jacobs beats Canelo but put them all in with GGG he ices them.

        It's fear and denial. What irks me is GGG could clear out 168 as he has 160 but the money is down there so I get it, the GGG fan boys are just as bad though expecting and wanting credit for him facing guys like Brook, Saunders and Jacobs.

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          #114
          Originally posted by kafkod
          What is it about Golovkin that makes crazy people so angry?

          ..... his fanbase is ******ed ?

          ..... he talks utter shht, then fails to back it up..... and his fans pretend like it never happened?

          ..... am I getting warm ?


          Originally posted by ScottWeiland
          It's a peculiar one.

          Personally I think he's awesome but he's light years ahead of his nearest challenger (Jacobs) and I don't even see Canelo being competitive. I'm excited to see JCCJ vs Canelo as I feel it's competitive, I feel Jacobs beats Canelo but put them all in with GGG he ices them.

          It's fear and denial. What irks me is GGG could clear out 168 as he has 160 but the money is down there so I get it, the GGG fan boys are just as bad though expecting and wanting credit for him facing guys like Brook, Saunders and Jacobs.

          ..... don't forget about Wade

          btw, it is his loopy fanbase that turns a lot of punters off

          that and all of the hype/bullshht

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          • kafkod
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            #115
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            ..... his fanbase is ******ed ?

            ..... he talks utter shht, then fails to back it up..... and his fans pretend like it never happened?

            ..... am I getting warm ?





            ..... don't forget about Wade

            btw, it is his loopy fanbase that turns a lot of punters off

            that and all of the hype/bullshht
            Nothing you wrote in this thread is real. It's an alternative reality you created for yourself because you are addicted to getting angry and talking shit on the internet.

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            • aboutfkntime
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              #116
              Originally posted by kafkod
              Nothing you wrote in this thread is real. It's an alternative reality you created for yourself because you are addicted to getting angry and talking shit on the internet.








              I am not the guy who is in denial

              keep pretending that lil'G did not attempt to force a purse-bid in order to gain an unfair/undeserved financial advantage over the SUPERSTAR Canelo, rather than negotiate in good faith

              keep pretending that is how you make a fight with a SUPERSTAR

              keep pretending lil'G did not refuse a FORTUNE to fight Canelo

              keep pretending that lil'G did not duck Ward

              keep pretending I cannot provide links to prove those facts

              keep pretending you care about boxing more than you care about Golovkin

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              • Boxcaster
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                #117
                Let's not act like Beterbiev is not a monster. Considering he apparently beat Kovalev in the amateurs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSzhWiz0fRU

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                • original zero
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                  No wonder people don't want the fight. It's a 75/25 split in Beterbievs favour whoever he fights.
                  The IBF is the only organization where you can't achieve a top two ranking via attrition. Beterbiev had to win an eliminator for the #2 position.

                  Since #1 is currently vacant, it means whoever he faces for the #1 ranking will have only had to win one eliminator to get their title shot instead of the usual two. For that reason, if a boxer ranked 3-15 is facing a boxer ranked #1 or #2 in a final eliminator, the boxer ranked 3-15 gets the smaller purse since they didn't earn the opportunity like their opponent did.

                  Had Barrera also won an IBF eliminator, it would have been a 50/50 split.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by JAB5239
                    Is it just me or do the ABC orgs seem corrupt in how purses are split? Shouldn't this be left to the promoters? Personally I think a 55/45 split is fair. At worst 60/40. Not Beterbievs fault, but this is the kind of thing killing the sport.
                    The IBF is the only organization that follows their rules 100% no matter who you are. Absolutely ZERO corruption. The IBF rules are clear and transparent.

                    Beterbiev earned the #2 ranking by winning an official IBF eliminator. If somebody else had won an eliminator for the #1 ranking, #1 and #2 would fight in a final eliminator with a 50/50 split.

                    Since nobody has been willing to fight in an eliminator for the #1 ranking and Beterbiev has waited a very long time, Beterbiev is entitled to face the highest available contender in a final eliminator. However, since the person he will be facing did not win an eliminator yet and Beterbiev did, Beterbiev gets a 75/25 split in his favor. If Beterbiev wins and gets a title shot, his title shot will be a 75/25 split in the champion's favor.
                    Last edited by original zero; 03-14-2017, 11:55 AM.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by original zero
                      The IBF is the only organization that follows their rules 100% no matter who you are. Absolutely ZERO corruption. The IBF rules are clear and transparent.

                      Beterbiev earned the #2 ranking by winning an official IBF eliminator. If somebody else had won an eliminator for the #1 ranking, #1 and #2 would fight in a final eliminator with a 50/50 split.

                      Since nobody has been willing to fight in an eliminator for the #1 ranking and Beterbiev has waited a very long time, Beterbiev is entitled to face the highest available contender in a final eliminator. However, since the person he will be facing did not win an eliminator yet and Beterbiev did, Beterbiev gets a 75/25 split in his favor. If Beterbiev wins and gets a title shot, his title shot will be a 75/25 split in the champion's favor.
                      I'm not claiming to know all the rules, but can you show me the rule that states one contender is entitled a 75/25 split over the other?

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