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  • hitking
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    #111
    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
    I don't care if Jones or Hopkins did it. That's up to them. GGG just doesn't have the frame to go up two weight classes.

    If it was just the one weight, then fair enough. But there aren't big fights at the weight so it wouldn't satisfy all the poisonous haters if he were to beat the Supermiddles.

    He's making the right choice in staying at Middle.
    There's very little size difference between Roy and GGG. Hopkins is probably naturally a lil bigger. But none of those guys were huge.

    And for Jones, the smart play would have been to sit around at 160 and wait for the welterweight stars to come to him. He opted to move up and chase greatness.

    Hopkins did opt to sit around and wait for the welterweight stars to come to him. And yes, he got his money fights. The thing with Hopkins is that he's a freak of nature that was able to compete at a championship level into his 50s. Does GGG have another decade+ of "greatness" left in him?

    At the end of the day, its his career. But I would much rather see him move up and chase greatness. As opposed to sitting around hoping these clowns DLH and Canelo eventually come around and fight him. You and others like you are crazy as hell of y'all think public pressure is gonna force them into doing anything. Canelo has made a big event with Khan. He's about to participate in the biggest event of the year with Chavez Jr. Both are joke fights, and tons of people are gonna pay to see him. They're already setting the stage to walk away from the next bout of negotiations with GGG. Cotto is wanting a rematch. Its much more likely that we get Canelo-Cotto II later this year than Canelo-GGG. If you're Gennady, you're 35yrs old. At what point do you just move on?

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    • Ake-Dawg
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      #112
      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
      I don't care if Jones or Hopkins did it. That's up to them. GGG just doesn't have the frame to go up two weight classes.

      If it was just the one weight, then fair enough. But there aren't big fights at the weight so it wouldn't satisfy all the poisonous haters if he were to beat the Supermiddles.

      He's making the right choice in staying at Middle.
      Golovkin vs Degale isn't big enough to move up?

      Also, to me....if Trip fights tough fights...he builds his brand and wouldn't need an A side to help him make big money. That and better English.

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      • Sid-Knee
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        #113
        Originally posted by hitking
        There's very little size difference between Roy and GGG. Hopkins is probably naturally a lil bigger. But none of those guys were huge.

        And for Jones, the smart play would have been to sit around at 160 and wait for the welterweight stars to come to him. He opted to move up and chase greatness.

        Hopkins did opt to sit around and wait for the welterweight stars to come to him. And yes, he got his money fights. The thing with Hopkins is that he's a freak of nature that was able to compete at a championship level into his 50s. Does GGG have another decade+ of "greatness" left in him?

        At the end of the day, its his career. But I would much rather see him move up and chase greatness. As opposed to sitting around hoping these clowns DLH and Canelo eventually come around and fight him. You and others like you are crazy as hell of y'all think public pressure is gonna force them into doing anything. Canelo has made a big event with Khan. He's about to participate in the biggest event of the year with Chavez Jr. Both are joke fights, and tons of people are gonna pay to see him. They're already setting the stage to walk away from the next bout of negotiations with GGG. Cotto is wanting a rematch. Its much more likely that we get Canelo-Cotto II later this year than Canelo-GGG. If you're Gennady, you're 35yrs old. At what point do you just move on?
        If Canelo's side don't offer up a better split of the money I could see GGG and his team just take what's on offer. He needs that fight bad. If Canelo then turns around and refuses to still fight after that, then they'll be considered cowards for the rest of their lives. But GGG needs to do all he can to get the fight, his legacy depends on it.

        There are no legacy fights at S/Middle. And as I say, Lightheavy is just too much.

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        • Sid-Knee
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          #114
          Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
          Golovkin vs Degale isn't big enough to move up?

          Also, to me....if Trip fights tough fights...he builds his brand and wouldn't need an A side to help him make big money. That and better English.
          No, the Degale fight isn't big enough for him to leave the Canelo fight behind. If GGG were to move up, the Canelo fight is dead in the water.

          GGG is building his brand at Middle right now, he doesn't need to move up for that.

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          • LacedUp
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            #115
            Mega irresponsible to put bellew in with Wilder.

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            • Karoriori
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              #116
              Originally posted by keith_head
              Why are you ****ting on Wilder for wanting the Parker fight?

              Jesus, can't win with some of you guys.

              Do you actually not want to see Parker-Wilder or something? It's clearly the best fight Wilder could possibly make, assuming he beats Stiverne and assuming Parker beats Fury.
              I want to see it but have zero faith Wilder wants it he always talks nonsense about wanting good fights then takes the path of least resistance.

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              • Jerzdevil21
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                #117
                I have no doubt Wilder will look to seal a fight with Bellew rather than Parker. Maybe set up a fight with Breazeale and rematch with Stiverne. It's obvious he wants no part of Ortiz or Joshua. With Fury coming back into the mix who knows what that does to the deepen the pool. I can see Deontay fighting overmatched journeymen for 12 more fights so he can break Marciano's record and pat himself on the back like another undefeated diva has been doing lately.

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                • Karoriori
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by RLYNN
                  I have no doubt Wilder will look to seal a fight with Bellew rather than Parker. Maybe set up a fight with Breazeale and rematch with Stiverne. It's obvious he wants no part of Ortiz or Joshua. With Fury coming back into the mix who knows what that does to the deepen the pool. I can see Deontay fighting overmatched journeymen for 12 more fights so he can break Marciano's record and pat himself on the back like another undefeated diva has been doing lately.
                  Yea that's Wilders style and along with that his fans will claim the next 12 journeyman are some of the best in the division. I've heard some nut huggers claim that Washington was a top 10 fighter

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                  • SkillspayBills
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                    #119
                    People are actually saying Wilder is trying to duck Ortiz to face............Parker!? LMAOOO WTF kind of world do we live in where it's called a duck for wanting to face another champion in your division.

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                    • hitking
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                      If Canelo's side don't offer up a better split of the money I could see GGG and his team just take what's on offer. He needs that fight bad. If Canelo then turns around and refuses to still fight after that, then they'll be considered cowards for the rest of their lives. But GGG needs to do all he can to get the fight, his legacy depends on it.

                      There are no legacy fights at S/Middle. And as I say, Lightheavy is just too much.
                      We can agree to disagree about light heavy being too much an ask for GGG. I just don't understand how people wanna place the label "greatness" on him. Yet the same people don't wanna see him go out and dare to be great.

                      As for Canelo being legacy defining for GGG. I think you placing Canelo on way too big a pedestal. At this point, Canelo is more DLH than he is Floyd or Manny. Canelo was pretty much shutout in his biggest assignment against Floyd. Me, along with several others felt he lost to Lara. A lot of people thought Trout outpointed him. His biggest clear cut win is Cotto. And that was a much bigger event than fight. Politics allowed Cotto an undeserved shot at pretty much a crippled Martinez. Cotto had been outclassed by Trout. Like I said, it was a bigger event than fight. Just because a guy is a major draw doesn't make him a great fighter.

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