Comments Thread For: Wilder's Promoter: We'd Consider Bellew, Parker is Top Choice

[i love boxing]

parker almost lost to that fat pig ruiz, hes useless.

So a champ should not want to unify?

[KillaCamNZ]

Why not try and make a superfight with either Ward or Kovalev? That fight does more for his legacy than any other fight in boxing.

A fight with Ward or Kovalev @ 168 would be interesting - I would be surprised if GGG's Management hasn't at least asked their camps about the possibility. @ 175 it would be suicide, it's not like GGG is a big middleweight - he hardly cuts weight if at all.

I really don't know if Ward or Kovalev would bite at the idea of fighting him at either weight - especially not now with the cold war they have going on between themselves.

Still, GGG needs to do something that defines his career. If it continues on the same path, he (and the fans) will feel like there are missed opportunities.

I've given up on GGG-Canelo, there's just no middle-ground between a conservative, and a diva who makes his own rules.

[Ake-Dawg]

This is really well said. Moving up makes sense if there's a carrot being dangled in front of him, but he'd just be shifting from a below-average division, to one that's not much better.

Totally different story if there's a dominant fighter or a superfight to be made - but it just ain't there.

And with Wilder...I'm prepared for the worst. Zero expectations. If I don't expect a decent fight for him, I can't be disappointed when he fights another can.

My issue with what both of you are saying is that on one hand you say it's ok to not take risks to protect the potential for a big fight down the road (GGG), then on the other hand you say that a fighter should be taking risks instead of fighting "cans" until the big fight comes (Wilder). The only real difference between Trip and Wilder is meldonium (Povetkin- Jacobs represent their best opponents which only came about via mandatory bouts). Both say they want to unify...both haven't been in tough since becoming champion. Both have not taken challenges in hopes to secure a big money fight (Canelo, Klitschko/Joshua). Both have called out the weak champion (Saunders, Parker). Both are willing to fight mismatches for big checks (Brook, Bellew).

Sure there are differences but in principle they are largely approaching the fight game the same.

[TheUptownKid]

Everyone who is involved in Boxing - ask any of the promoters - knows that Haye was avoided, for many reasons. No one wanted to fight him.

The main reason is most boxers in the division are more concerned with easy fights, fights that suit their style and the thought of facing Haye was too risky.

Haye may be a shot fighter, but the guy achieved more in his prime than many boxers have in their career.

By the way, when is WIlder going to fight anyone of note?

He signed to fight povetkin and he called out Parker. I think it's coming. And no disrespect to David haye he's just way past his prime but he had a solid career tho

[Sid-Knee]

I didn't know there was a rule that said GGG couldn't move up to super middle, or better yet light heavy and make a superfight with either Ward or Kovalev. Then move back down and fight Canelo at whatever weight they decide on. That's exactly what Canelo is doing now.

As for Wilder, I've spent this entire thread pretty much trashing his level of competition. Not sure what you've been reading.

So you want someone who makes Middle easily to move up two weight classes? Do you not think that's a bit excessive? One weight yeah, but two is pushing it. He'd be tiny at Lightheavy.

There's no bigger fight out there for GGG than the Canelo fight, so moving up would be the final nail in that fight ever being made.

No, he should stay where he is because the pressure on Canelo to take the fight is really closing in on him. He can't duck that fight for much longer. GGG is making the right decision.

Wait, you want him to move up two divisions then come back down again? That's not exactly healthy is it? He most certainly shouldn't do that.

Wilder's opposition doesn't have to be bad, it's obviously his choice. How else do you explain him getting called out by a threat in Ortiz but for him to ignore it? His team have no problem with Parker or Bellew though. Would be nice to hear something positive said about making the Ortiz fight, that's all.

[Sid-Knee]

This is really well said. Moving up makes sense if there's a carrot being dangled in front of him, but he'd just be shifting from a below-average division, to one that's not much better.

Totally different story if there's a dominant fighter or a superfight to be made - but it just ain't there.

And with Wilder...I'm prepared for the worst. Zero expectations. If I don't expect a decent fight for him, I can't be disappointed when he fights another can.

Exactly. The big fight for GGG IS at Middle with Canelo. He should stay there and keep pushing for the fight. Canelo can't stay ducking forever.

I don't have any hope of Wilder taking on a threat either. But that won't stop him mouthing off that he's the best at the weight.

[hitking]

A fight with Ward or Kovalev @ 168 would be interesting - I would be surprised if GGG's Management hasn't at least asked their camps about the possibility. @ 175 it would be suicide, it's not like GGG is a big middleweight - he hardly cuts weight if at all.

I really don't know if Ward or Kovalev would bite at the idea of fighting him at either weight - especially not now with the cold war they have going on between themselves.

Still, GGG needs to do something that defines his career. If it continues on the same path, he (and the fans) will feel like there are missed opportunities.

I've given up on GGG-Canelo, there's just no middle-ground between a conservative, and a diva who makes his own rules.

So you want someone who makes Middle easily to move up two weight classes? Do you not think that's a bit excessive? One weight yeah, but two is pushing it. He'd be tiny at Lightheavy.

There's no bigger fight out there for GGG than the Canelo fight, so moving up would be the final nail in that fight ever being made.

No, he should stay where he is because the pressure on Canelo to take the fight is really closing in on him. He can't duck that fight for much longer. GGG is making the right decision.

Wait, you want him to move up two divisions then come back down again? That's not exactly healthy is it? He most certainly shouldn't do that.

Wilder's opposition doesn't have to be bad, it's obviously his choice. How else do you explain him getting called out by a threat in Ortiz but for him to ignore it? His team have no problem with Parker or Bellew though. Would be nice to hear something positive said about making the Ortiz fight, that's all.

Exactly. The big fight for GGG IS at Middle with Canelo. He should stay there and keep pushing for the fight. Canelo can't stay ducking forever.

I don't have any hope of Wilder taking on a threat either. But that won't stop him mouthing off that he's the best at the weight.

Jones and Hopkins fought as light heavyweights. In Hopkins case, he jumped straight from middleweight to light heavyweight. I don't understand why we wanna label GGG great. But don't wanna place great expectations on him.

[Sid-Knee]

Jones and Hopkins fought as light heavyweights. In Hopkins case, he jumped straight from middleweight to light heavyweight. I don't understand why we wanna label GGG great. But don't wanna place great expectations on him.

I don't care if Jones or Hopkins did it. That's up to them. GGG just doesn't have the frame to go up two weight classes.

If it was just the one weight, then fair enough. But there aren't big fights at the weight so it wouldn't satisfy all the poisonous haters if he were to beat the Supermiddles.

He's making the right choice in staying at Middle.

[David Haye]

He signed to fight povetkin and he called out Parker. I think it's coming. And no disrespect to David haye he's just way past his prime but he had a solid career tho

Well, I'm not sure either count as anyone of note but it would be a start. Step-up from fighting part time security guards.

[jmrf4435]

Haye's body reach alone was tagging Bellew. Easy work for Wilder. Bellew gets KO'd

Hayes punches, even before the "injury" did absolutely nothing to slow Bellew down

But yes, bellew would lose to wilder