I consider Haye Bellew a NO CONTEST

[kafkod]

The injury was not a result of any action from Bellew, he 'won' by default. This is a no contest in my mind.

According to boxing rules (may be different in the US but I don't think so) an unexpected injury that occurs to a fighter should really end the fight in a no contest.

After that 6th round, the ref should have gone and spoken to Haye and Haye's corner, evaluated the situation and then called the fight off. It would have been a no contest.

That's only if the injury is caused by something which is outside the rules of boxing, but not an intentional foul.

Eg, the first fight between BHop and Dawson was ruled a NC because BHop dislocated his shoulder by falling after being lifted off his feet by Dawson, which was against the rules. (If Dawson had lifted BHop and chucked him down deliberately, he would have been DQ'd)

But when Vitali retired after dislocating his shoulder against Byrd, that wasn't a NC because nothing outside the rules occurred to cause the injury.

Nothing outside the rules occurred to cause Haye's injury either, so no NC could have been declared.

[kafkod]

C'mon how much credit can you give to someone that won because his opponents leg ****ed up all by itself? A fight that the opponent was winning easily at that point.

Haye wasn't winning the fight easily, dumbo. He may have been ahead on the cards after 5 rounds - I don't know about that, because I haven't seen them - But Bellew was obviously focused on defence and biding his time till then.

Even before the injury, I noticed Bellew was starting to step in with his punches in the 6th and looked to be sharing or even winning that round.

[David Haye]

Haye is to blame, he went into the fight injured. Honetly he can be sued for this because a lot of people bet money on him.

Dammed if he does and Dammed if he doesn't.

Haye pulls out of fights with genuine injuries, he gets called a fraud.

He fights with an injury. People say he should have pulled out.

He fights half the fight with one-leg but people are suddenly medical experts saying his injury wasn't serious.

Haye's "problem" is his loud, arrogant personality so people refuse to give the guy any benefit of the doubt, although he has been very bitter and angry recently, so I understand why he's disliked.

However your body is your body, muscles and tendons breakdown, even if you're an arrogant prick at times.

[The Ox]

You're definitely not a scouser. This has proved it once and for all.

You think I'm supporting this ****?

[billeau2]

Hate was a gentleman and said belles was better fighter.

But we saw it with our own eyes that hate won most of the fiurst six rounds with good leg.
So if he didn't injure himself he'd have likely won a decision even if he did gas out in last 6 rounds

People say even with good leg he didn't ko belles? But at least hate won the rounds

There are so many ways to see this. I don't think Haye necessarily won anything major those rounds, the fight was progressing. What had been established up until that point was that

a) Bellow could take the punch for the time being
b) Bellow was not going to be the victim of a beating
c) Haye was probably winning more rounds...

Bellow's strategy to win that fight would be to drag haye into the later rounds, for a moral victory, a psychological victory, but also it happened to be the best way for him to previal given the extra weight haye was carrying.

Strictly judging those rounds Bellew did demonstrate he was being competative.

But all this analysis is chaffe, the real wheat was that Bellew endured. Bellew didn't need to win on the scorecards to win that fight. Thats the reality imo.

[billeau2]

Dammed if he does and Dammed if he doesn't.

Haye pulls out of fights with genuine injuries, he gets called a fraud.

He fights with an injury. People say he should have pulled out.

He fights half the fight with one-leg but people are suddenly medical experts saying his injury wasn't serious.

Haye's "problem" is his loud, arrogant personality so people refuse to give the guy any benefit of the doubt, although he has been very bitter and angry recently, so I understand why he's disliked.

However your body is your body, muscles and tendons breakdown, even if you're an arrogant prick at times.

I agree with you. However Haye is an idiot because, while he sold the fight, he put himself in a situation where he could not perform. There is something to be said for being a man of your word... Haye demonstrated why this is part of our social contract.

With that said he was indeed in a pickle and he would have probably gotten more sympathy if he sold the fight and then stopped with the threats.

[MDPopescu]

your opinion doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.

But I know what you mean Haye started the fight injured and scammed the fight fans again.

... something like that......................

[original zero]

The injury was not a result of any action from Bellew, he 'won' by default. This is a no contest in my mind.

too bad your mind doesn't know what a no contest is

[sicko]

No Bellew got the win, not his fault Haye hurt himself because he was Wild BUT I really don't want to see Bellew vs another Heavyweight. All this calling out Wilder and some fans being for it is a bit RIDICULOUS

[Enzo Mc is SHIT]

Just watched round 6 again and I'm convinced Haye entered the ring with the injury.

When he slipped on the ankle and it obviously caused him pain, the natural thing to do would be to try to survive the round and see how it feels back in the corner, or even to take a knee to give himself a few seconds to assess the damage. Haye started throwing bombs immediately - he knew what was wrong, knew it wasn't going to get any better and went all out there and then.