IV rehydration ban - how do you feel about it, and how do they enforce it?

[PRINCEKOOL]

But then boxers could get hurt a lot more, cause they'll still try to drain themselves, and just rehydrate without a smaller window.

I don't know... In theory, if all boxers were smart and didn't try anything ******/drastic, it'd be great, but in reality, I think it could cause more injuries.

Well if boxers are ****** enough to do this? when afew of them die, or are put in hospital! they will soon get the memo. Just recently David Haye stated that boxers who always want a unnatural weight advantage, and aspire to fight way below their natural weights must be bullies! This statement was made in reference to his feud with Tony Bellew...

Same day weigh in's will improve performance, and protect allot of boxers from themselves!

[Eff Pandas]

Same Day weigh in's will force fighters, to fight at their natural weights...

I don't believe that. You'll probably have the same amount of guys or more entering the ring at an unhealthy weight cuz everyone is on the fight at the lowest weight possible mindset. You are just going back to the old way, when I think stats suggest more people died in the ring & I'd assume fighting at unhealthier weights than boxers do now played a part in that, but thats a whole other argument.

The key thing thats never been done is determining a healthy weight for a boxer like they do in wrestling at some levels of the sport (& where guys dying & risking long term damage due to weight loss is a bigger problem than in boxing). You need to take into account the health of the kidneys & healthy body fat levels. If you aren't looking at those things (among others up for discussion) everything is bs & a half measure at best.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I don't believe that. You'll probably have the same amount of guys or more entering the ring at an unhealthy weight cuz everyone is on the fight at the lowest weight possible mindset. You are just going back to the old way, when I think stats suggest more people died in the ring & I'd assume fighting at unhealthier weights than boxers do now played a part in that, but thats a whole other argument.

The key thing thats never been done is determining a healthy weight for a boxer like they do in wrestling at some levels of the sport (& where guys dying & risking long term damage due to weight loss is a bigger problem than in boxing). You need to take into account the health of the kidneys & healthy body fat levels. If you aren't looking at those things (among others up for discussion) everything is bs & a half measure at best.

I think it will improve allot of things, unlike the old days! there is allot of education, and health awareness within sport in general. Also BMI is a load of nonsense, according to BMI a prime Mike Tyson was obese....

[Eff Pandas]

Well if boxers are ****** enough to do this? when afew of them die

LOL. I mean as a fan of George Carlin's the kid who eats the most marbles doesn't get to grow up & have kids of his own survival of the fittest way of thinking I kinda agree with your overall opinion, but I mean you can't just stand idle when you know certain things are dangerous for a persons health & "a few of them will die" as you are collecting a check as promoters, commissions, alphabet groups & others do,

And I mean part of making boxing more mainstream again in this p#ssified culture in the US is going to require things that make the fighters safer & some of that involves protecting them from themselves in a sport that has a low barrier of entry & can offer you millions of dollars for your services at the highest levels.

[AddiX]

You think you want things like PEDs and IVs gone from the sport, but you don't.

[Eff Pandas]

I think it will improve allot of things, unlike the old days! there is allot of education, and health awareness within sport in general. Also BMI is a load of nonsense, according to BMI a prime Mike Tyson was obese....

I said BMI-ish cuz I don't believe BMI isn't an end all fix for anything myself, but it is super simple & with some tweaks for specific body types I believe that it could be one of the tools to determine what weight one should be fighting at.

I do believe there are healthy body fat %'s & there are urine gravity tests that will greatly help determine healthy weights for boxers. And neither of those things mean anything to boxing commissions currently, but eventually when enough boxers & MMA guys die like has happened in wrestling they will figure out these are key things to look into & consider in determining who should be fighting & what weight they should be fighting at.

And Tyson never had to make weight so he's not really relevant.

[travestyny]

When testing for PEDs if you have more fluid in your blood system (saline etc) it will lower the percentage of the PEDs, thus making it harder to detect

The specific gravity test makes sure that samples are not diluted. The sample has to pass the specific gravity test even if an IV is given.

IV infusions before sample collection could actually prolong the doping control sample process because it has a greater potential to produce multiple dilute samples.
http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uplo...-Infusions.pdf

[Kigali]

You think you want things like PEDs and IVs gone from the sport, but you don't.

Nothing wrong with IVs fella'.

I bet some of the fighters you like have used them.

[travestyny]

Actually its also banned by NSAC

http://boxing.nv.gov/

http://boxing.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/b...S-R062-16A.pdf

Sections 11-13 and 18 of this regulation provide that the prohibited substances and prohibited methods in this State are the same as the prohibited substances and prohibited methods in the Prohibited List published by the World Anti-Doping Agency.



Man, the NSAC would NOT have given Floyd a BS RETRO TUE .... or should I say, nobody other than Floyd will ever be able to get a BS RETRO TUE!!!


The Commission will not grant:
(a) A the****utic use exemption that applies to a contest or exhibition in which the applicant has already participated.




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Why are you using Floyd as an example here when this clearly came after the Pacquiao fight? It's time for you to get over your butthurt! Have you tried Pacquiao's sea water remedy yet?

[i love boxing]

Where is it banned? it isnt illegal outside of USADA correct?