IV rehydration ban - how do you feel about it, and how do they enforce it?

[Robbie Barrett]

Here's the full quote from the original WADA paper.


https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...ons_3.0_EN.pdf

Interesting...

Wow, I assumed intravenous would definitely be more effective - guess not, doe.

I saw an interview with Johnny Hendricks where he talked about how much better IV rehydration was, and how when they banned it, it inhibited him from fully rehydrated by fight night.

Maybe it's one of those things where the placebo effect is in play - he believes it, so therefor it is.

From the link.


"It is the responsibility of the supervising physician to evaluate the medical legitimacy of the
clinical indication for any TUE application involving the use of IV infusion. Oral rehydration is
usually highly effective, yet there may be cases such as documented hyponatremia where
hypertonic saline by IV is more effective than oral treatments."

[daggum]

some guys need to "rehydrate" after dropping 3 pounds. curious.

[boliodogs]

I think they should be banned but how would you enforce such a ban? You would have to have someone watch the boxer 24/7. Just go back to same day weigh ins instead.

[DoktorSleepless]

From the link.


"It is the responsibility of the supervising physician to evaluate the medical legitimacy of the
clinical indication for any TUE application involving the use of IV infusion. Oral rehydration is
usually highly effective, yet there may be cases such as documented hyponatremia where
hypertonic saline by IV is more effective than oral treatments."

In the latest 2016 version of that document (the one I linked originally was from 2011), they completely removed that passage you quoted. Thought that was weird, and I looked up the reference for your quote, which was this study. Then I checked if maybe the authors had a follow up study, which they did in 2014. It concluded that there's no difference.

[DoktorSleepless]

Those same authors wrote another interesting article last year.

http://www.wemjournal.org/article/S1...474-3/abstract

When athletes have access to fluids, severe levels of dehydration are rare, and when athletes do become dehydrated, oral rehydration is usually adequate and preferred.3, 11 An exception is when dehydration is coupled with protracted nausea and vomiting.12 Recent consensus guidelines for medical care at ultraendurance events indicate that IV isotonic fluid infusion is appropriate (when available) if oral fluid intake is not tolerated and clear signs of hypovolemia (persistent tachycardia, poor skin turgor, and lightheadedness when standing) are evident.13 When an athlete is able to tolerate oral fluids, there is no justification for infusing IV fluids. Those few athletes who do require IV fluids should be thoroughly evaluated by competent medical staff who can monitor and assess the response to therapy as well as escalate care if needed. The practice of providing postrace IV hydration without medical assessment, without follow-up, and without utilization of accepted guidelines is inappropriate and also puts a burden of emergency response on the community emergency medical system.

[Shape up]

Some authorities say it's better, so what do the others say? It's not a fact that it's better.

So in other words you can't say it's not better, is that right

[Madison Boxing]

surprised people are moaning. unless im getting the wrong end of the stick, surely its a good thing as it stops naturally bigger fighters draining themselves like **** to fight guys who are smaller? Plus i dont think some fighters loss of water weight is 'natural' either .

[Shape up]

Hmmm interesting...

Could you not just orally take the same chemicals to mask,, though?

When testing for PEDs if you have more fluid in your blood system (saline etc) it will lower the percentage of the PEDs, thus making it harder to detect

[ADP02]

It's only banned under VADA/USADA.

Actually its also banned by NSAC

http://boxing.nv.gov/

http://boxing.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/boxingnvgov/content/home/features/2016-09-09-ADOPTEDREGULATIONS-R062-16A.pdf

Sections 11-13 and 18 of this regulation provide that the prohibited substances and prohibited methods in this State are the same as the prohibited substances and prohibited methods in the Prohibited List published by the World Anti-Doping Agency.



Man, the NSAC would NOT have given Floyd a BS RETRO TUE .... or should I say, nobody other than Floyd will ever be able to get a BS RETRO TUE!!!


The Commission will not grant:
(a) A the****utic use exemption that applies to a contest or exhibition in which the applicant has already participated.




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[Robbie Barrett]

So in other words you can't say it's not better, is that right

You can't say it is.