How many fighters have turned down 5x their highest payday for a fight?

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  • Lester Tutor
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    #31
    Originally posted by Zaryu
    What's not true? That GGG doesn't want to face Canelo.

    Remember that GGG made Canelo vacate his belt, chased him back to a weightclass he could barely squeeze himself down to, and made him eat his "macho" words of being willing to fight GGG. All this without even stepping into the ring.

    The September date has not passed yet, so we don't really know if a deal will be successfully finalized or not. Other people have done a good enough job explaining why a flat fee is not truly a fair offer.

    Remember that Canelo was too small for GGG at 160, but apparently he is fine facing a much bigger fighter at 164. Does GGG really sound like the one avoiding a fight here?

    A flat fee is unfortunately being used to fool a naive fanbase of their hero's credibility, but the truth is a split is the fair proposition.

    However, I will say I don't think Canelo is the one avoiding the fight, and I don't really enjoy talking bad about boxers, but trolling attempts like yours get old.

    I refuse to believe you're being serious, so just use your energy for other boxing related topics. Not this recycled nonsense from boxing's parasite fans.
    Surely you would agree now that GGG vs Jacobs is a good starting point for further negotiations with GBP. Loeffler has said ''to get the best fights (we have to do this)..'' So Loeffler is acknowledging GBP's reasoning on the table, and behind the scenes I'm sure Tom and Oscar are cool. The theory that Alvarez ideally gets more from the pot is justified when Abel or Loeffler say they want May or Sept. dates with Alvarez. Gee I wonder why... which demographic follows Nelo around and brings the cash.

    Floyd is out of the picture now with Cinco De Mayweather or Sept. Floyd was the Mexican snatcher, so Oscar and Bhop have various scenarios to bring more revenue. Alvarez vs Chavez Jr. series BRINGS MONEY!

    If Golovkin wants to make his own money, then as Arum said, homeboy is gonna have to move north. When you'Re making so much money it's every business for themself. This is why Floyd is TBE!!

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #32
      Didn't Chavez Jr turn down some $10Mish payday to fight GGG when I'm not sure he'd made more than $2Mish previous to that? Granted Arum was trying to f#ck him with an extension & later offered him the same fight for drastically less money.

      That said I'm not confident a real offer for $15M was made to GGG for an actual date & if there was I wouldn't be surprised if what led to the denial had some Arum level f#ckery in the contract cuz no one seems more pissy pants about Canelo vs GGG than Oscar. If Canelo losses a fight to GGG or anyone they need to put Oscar on suicide watch cuz he gots problems & Canelo is his golden ticket & I'm not confident he can handle a Canelo L.

      I also think Kimbo Slice turned down some 5x+ paydays when he made his run in boxing, but to be fair he'd made millions in MMA so might not be an equal comparison.

      I'm sure there are boxing money nerds who happen to be duck people doe who'll have more answers to this as its not an unusual occurrence with how sketchy boxing contracts are & getting 5x more than your biggest payday isn't likely to be worth getting buttf#cked long term in some promoter prison that an agreement might contain.

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      • joe strong
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        #33
        I don't know about 5 times but The night Corrie Sanders signed to fight Wladimir he was the 11th guy who was offered the fight. Klitschko was so feared that 10 other good heavyweights turned down the biggest payday of their careers so they didn't have to fight him. It didn't work out so well for Wlad on that night but he had already beaten Nicholson, mercer, shufford, barrett, botha, McCline, Jefferson, Chris Byrd before the Sanders fight so guys were not lining up to face Wlad...

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        • Lester Tutor
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          #34
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          Didn't Chavez Jr turn down some $10Mish payday to fight GGG when I'm not sure he'd made more than $2Mish previous to that? Granted Arum was trying to f#ck him with an extension & later offered him the same fight for drastically less money.

          That said I'm not confident a real offer for $15M was made to GGG for an actual date & if there was I wouldn't be surprised if what led to the denial had some Arum level f#ckery in the contract cuz no one seems more pissy pants about Canelo vs GGG than Oscar. If Canelo losses a fight to GGG or anyone they need to put Oscar on suicide watch cuz he gots problems & Canelo is his golden ticket & I'm not confident he can handle a Canelo L.

          I also think Kimbo Slice turned down some 5x+ paydays when he made his run in boxing, but to be fair he'd made millions in MMA so might not be an equal comparison.

          I'm sure there are boxing money nerds who happen to be duck people doe who'll have more answers to this as its not an unusual occurrence with how sketchy boxing contracts are & getting 5x more than your biggest payday isn't likely to be worth getting buttf#cked long term in some promoter prison that an agreement might contain.
          You should give Chavez Jr. and his dad, their family advisory the benefit of doubt in staying away from a sleezy Arum for any type of ''Extended'' renewal and with Golovkin in that picture. Mikey Garcia can tell you that...

          Let's be real, Chavez Jr. brought all the PPV for the Martinez bout. If GGG and Abel wanted Chavez Jr., who's the fighter that brought the cash? Cotto vs Martinez did less PPV.

          Alvarez vs Chavez Jr. will do north of a million PPVs. Like I'Ve been saying, there's a big diaspora going on with Mexicanism post Trump win. These people need this closure and ironically these two Marquee names are good for boxing.

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          • Real King Kong
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            #35
            Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
            Golovkins highest payday to date is £2.6 mil he got for Brook (he got the same as Brook), Canelo has offered $15 mil. Has any fighter in history turned down such a huge bump in pay for a fight? People bring up Mayweathers $40 mil offer to Pacquiao but Pacquiao was already making $20-$30 mil for fights.

            It's a clear duck if he walks away from that offer. IMO.
            You thought your post in that other thread wasn't enough...you had to make a sperate thread? if gbp and canelo wanted that fight, it would have been done.

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              #36
              Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
              You should give Chavez Jr. and his dad, their family advisory the benefit of doubt in staying away from a sleezy Arum for any type of ''Extended'' renewal and with Golovkin in that picture. Mikey Garcia can tell you that...
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              The question was the question. I'm not saying Chavez made the wrong decision. In fact I'm implying Chavez made the right decision based on facts that go beyond the massive increase in pay just like I suspect GGG & his team made the right decision for this alleged offer for a fantasy date fight that birthed this thread if there was in fact a real offer.

              Promoters are sketcky as f#ck as a business model. They offer nice bumps in paydays all the time, but the small print on the contract you sign &/or the sh^t that boxers don't understand when his promoter produced lawyer explains it to him is the stuff that will have the boxer realizing that nice bump in pay ultimately was a discount price on his true value.

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              • boliodogs
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                #37
                Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                Golovkins highest payday to date is £2.6 mil he got for Brook (he got the same as Brook), Canelo has offered $15 mil. Has any fighter in history turned down such a huge bump in pay for a fight? People bring up Mayweathers $40 mil offer to Pacquiao but Pacquiao was already making $20-$30 mil for fights.

                It's a clear duck if he walks away from that offer. IMO.
                You have a long history of hating on GGG with the best of the GGG haters. You have never said a kind word about him. You have done nothing but hate on him and trash him. Therefore your opinion on anything to do with him is completely bias. I am a big fan of both Canelo and GGG but facts are facts. Not long ago GGG was ready to fight Canelo for Canelo's WBC middleweight title and accept the challenger's short end of the purse. Clearly he has no fear of Canelo and didn't duck him. Canelo was the one who vacated the title rather than fight GGG for it. If anyone ducked it was Canelo. What GGG made in past fights has absolutely nothing to do with how much he should demand to fight Canelo. It's a huge fight that should be negotiated separately from any past fights. Promoters like Oscar and Mayweather love these flat fee offers because then they keep all the rest of the money for themselves. This fight is huge and GGG is 50% of why it's huge. He deserves at least the short end of a 65/35 split of all available money for the fighters. How is the 15 million dollar offer so God damn wonderful if Canelo is paid 3 or 4 times that much? If Oscar can pay glass jawed loser Khan 13 million to fight Canelo he can damn sure make GGG a better offer to fight Canelo in a 5 times bigger fight.

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                • Herr Schmeling
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                  #38
                  Canelo turned down a Golovkin fight already a couple of times and fought Smith and Khan instead. That's like saying no to 30 million and take 5 or 6 million instead. However, you are too ****** to understand.

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                  • SensFullViolenc
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                    #39
                    This thread is ******ed

                    This is two fights away. This is still the negotiation stage. Only dumbass negotiators accept the opening offer. That's what negotiating is for.

                    Have you ever negotiated anything? Did you accept the opening offer? If you did, you left a lot of $ on the table

                    It's February. The fight would be Sept, and there's a fight in between. This thread would STILL be premature and ******ed if it was June.

                    If they haven't signed hey July, then we can argue who's negotiating out of the fight.

                    But hey go ahead and have fun arguing over negotiations that haven't even really started

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                    • Robbie Barrett
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                      #40
                      Still nobody has named 1 fighter that turned down anywhere close to 5x their highest payday for a fight. Lots of nonsense about Canelo ducking etc. Canelo didn't turn down 5x his highest payday for a fight.

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