Cotto is most overrated fighter, followed by Tarver

[joeytrimble]

and as for him being over rated.....its not like ring magazine is doing cover articles on him or anything

hes rated right where he deserves to be a mid card exciteing top 10 fighter

[machotime]

Most overrated and underrated boxers in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

Overrated
1. Miguel Cotto
2. Antonio Tarver
3. Jermain Taylor
4. Joan Guzman
5. Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr

Underrated
1. Antonio Margarito
2. Edner Cherry
3. Acelino Freitas
4. Felix Sturm
5. Luis Collazo

I feel very strongly that Miguel Cotto will not face a top caliber apponent until 2007, which will not be an apponent known for his punching power. The moment he faces a real puncher I believe he will be knocked out, and badly.

Antonio Tarver will never face a top caliber apponent again for the remainder of his mediocre career. Jermain Taylor I think was brought up very poorly as a boxer, and got lucky when Bernard Hopkins aged right before our eyes in his last 2 fights with him. Now Taylor finds himself in an uncomfortable situation in his defending his title against a top pound-4-pound fighter named Winky Wright. I like Taylor, I think hes a great guy and would be a peoples champion, I really hope he succeeds but I feel that Wright will embarrase him when they meet this summer because Taylor just does not have the skills to defeat Wright.

Joan Guzman will get knocked out before long judging by his last performance, and until JC Chavez Jr stopps with these 6 rounders, against bums, and proves me wrong by fighting and defeating top caliber fighters, I just cant take him seriously. Jc Chavez Sr is my hero, but im not gonna root for someone who has gone back and fourth with 4 rounders and 6 rounders just because he is his son. He needs to kick it up with 10 rounders against tough apponents. Enjoy.

Maybe you should ask the 5 world champions that Cotto pounded on. What fights have you seen of cotto? you have probably only seen the Torres and Corley fight right?

By the way, Cotto has fought a real puncher: Torres who was 28-0 with 26 KO's. It doesnt matter if Torres KOed unknowns, anyone who KO's 26 out of 28 people is a power puncher. Torres was also named Hardest puncher in the 140 divison by Ring magazine (they probably know more about boxing than you do)

JCC jr. is 19 years old and had no amatuer career he needs time to build confidence and experience in the ring. Those 6 rounders are replacing the 3 rounders that he never had in the amatuers.

I have never liked Tarver, but I think you are missusing the word Overrated when you refer to these fighters.

Joan Guzman has tons of talent and has a good chin, he needs a little more polishing but the guy has great talent and huge potential.

I ponder that you are either young or are a recent boxing fan. Please watch more boxing before you post threads like this.

[Brz_Pugilist]

JLC is still and underrated fighter in my mind, even after all his performances, the guy can not only brawl but he can fight u from the outside as well, i hope after he beats Corrales, he will get that matchup with Miguel Cotto.

[Easy-E]

Holy ****. I think you just contradicted yourself like 9 times in a single sentence.

You're impressed he wins the fights the WAY he does, but you aren't impressed with HOW he wins the fights? I need some clearification, because those two sound like the same thing to me... because isn't how you do something the same as the way you do something?

please explain im so confused.

Ok, i understand that was a little confusing. What i mean is. Cotto has faced solid opposition and im impressed with that. Im also impressed that hes beaten these solid opponents by knockout or dominating decision. However, when i watch the fight, Cotto isnt all that dominant, and maybe its just my opinion, but the referee's seem to be stopping his fights very early. He wins alot of fights off cuts and strange stoppages when he hits his opponent with a good combo and the ref stops the fight. To put it this way, if the refs had called the Gatti ward fights like they do the cotto fights, neither one of the trilogies would have lasted 5 rounds.

[Easy-E]

Some examples of this are the Torres, Branco and Corley fights. Im like WOW, Cotto stopped all of these guys in under 8 rounds!!!
But when i watch the fight, im not very impressed.

[-Antonio-]

I agree on Antonio Tarver. Disagree on almost everything else.

[Easy-E]

it means.....he likes miguels ability to turn a ring into a wild west shootout to win but getting tagged and almost going out is not the way he'd like to see the man win

am i right pbf?

cotto has two things....hes either got trinidad or vargas syndrom

vargas while in trouble will just keep ****ing back and not tie up or anything which is what has lead to his downword spiral

trinidad although is able to get rocked and knocked down getting back up to go for the kill is what made him a legend

cotto is gonna have to either gain more killer instinct if he wants to be a trinidad
or learn to tie up if he dosnt have the firepower to be a great comeback fighter

Yeah, in part thats where im coming from as well.
When i re-read it, i confused myself!

[Easy-E]

Edner Cherry was a strange pick in the underateds i think, but agreed with most of it. PBF probably deserves to go somewhere in that first list but thats another arguement for another day.

Floyd mayweather has beaten 8 world champions at 4 different weights...

[IwatchBoxing]

But Floyd wont beat Cotto. Zab knocked him down with a jab (I think?), and Cotto has a great jab. Castillo bothered Floyd to the body? Cotto has a great body shot

[machotime]

Ok, i understand that was a little confusing. What i mean is. Cotto has faced solid opposition and im impressed with that. Im also impressed that hes beaten these solid opponents by knockout or dominating decision. However, when i watch the fight, Cotto isnt all that dominant, and maybe its just my opinion, but the referee's seem to be stopping his fights very early. He wins alot of fights off cuts and strange stoppages when he hits his opponent with a good combo and the ref stops the fight. To put it this way, if the refs had called the Gatti ward fights like they do the cotto fights, neither one of the trilogies would have lasted 5 rounds.

The refs have not stopped the fight many times for Cotto, his opponents have, most have quit.

Torres was a Count out not at TKO it was a KO, Branco quit, Ceballos quit, Corley was visibly scared and not doing anything but taking a beating in a round that he was knocked down then took a knee(that stoppage was a little premature), Sosa was a very impressive TKO, Abdulaev quit, Bailey quit in a brutal beating, Pinto was brutally beaten(I feared for his life), Bazan lost badly, His performance against Maussa was extremely dominant and impressive.

Emmanuel Steward said that he has never seen a boxer that makes so many opponents quit because of the cumulative beating that someone gives them.

What more do you want?