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  • original zero
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    #101
    Originally posted by jjsmyth87
    Yea lets just ignore the fact that shaefer had oscar under the impression that business was ok and meanwhile shaefer allowed his fighters to sign with haymon and not sign with golden boy. Meanwhile only a few top rank fighters ended up signing with haymon because they were actually looking out for the interest of the company unlike shaefer who is now promoting fights for haymon. What shaefer did was illegal which is why he had to pay golden boy millions and could not be involved in boxing for a period of time or did you forget all about that?
    the business was okay. there was nothing schaefer could do to stop fighters from signing with haymon. haymon's job was to maximize the value of his fighters. schaefer's job was to maximize the value of golden boy. they both did their job. in fact, schaefer maximized the value of GB so much that GB received a $100 million offer. just because DLH is a drug addict who was too ****** to take the money doesn't mean schaefer did anything wrong.

    schaefer didn't do anything illegal. if he did, he would have been charged with a crime. schaefer did not have to pay golden boy millions. i have no idea where you get your info. schaefer did sign a no compete, but that is standard.

    haymon had his fighters opt out of their contracts, just as he had mayweather opt out of his of top rank contract. GB did receive money from those fighters, just like TR received money from floyd, but that is very different from schaefer paying millions, which isn't what happened. you don't have your facts straight.

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    • jjsmyth87
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      #102
      Originally posted by original zero
      the business was okay. there was nothing schaefer could do to stop fighters from signing with haymon. haymon's job was to maximize the value of his fighters. schaefer's job was to maximize the value of golden boy. they both did their job. in fact, schaefer maximized the value of GB so much that GB received a $100 million offer. just because DLH is a drug addict who was too ****** to take the money doesn't mean schaefer did anything wrong.

      schaefer didn't do anything illegal. if he did, he would have been charged with a crime. schaefer did not have to pay golden boy millions. i have no idea where you get your info. schaefer did sign a no compete, but that is standard.

      haymon had his fighters opt out of their contracts, just as he had mayweather opt out of his of top rank contract. GB did receive money from those fighters, just like TR received money from floyd, but that is very different from schaefer paying millions, which isn't what happened. you don't have your facts straight.
      Did you not read about the settlement between odlh and shaefer? Shaefer had to pay millions and oscar didnt keep any of his haymon fighters. In the summary judgement that threw out oscars lawsuit against haymon it showed that oscar was paid millions. This was just reported here a few days ago, you have to read through the whole thing

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        #103
        Originally posted by jjsmyth87
        Did you not read about the settlement between odlh and shaefer? Shaefer had to pay millions and oscar didnt keep any of his haymon fighters. In the summary judgement that threw out oscars lawsuit against haymon it showed that oscar was paid millions. This was just reported here a few days ago, you have to read through the whole thing
        That settlement is sealed. Where did your read it? Can I get a link? The only thing that came out in the trial was Haymon paid Oscar $15 mil to be released. But we already knew he paid to get his fighters released we just didn't know how much.

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          #104
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            #105
            Originally posted by original zero
            he's trying to kill PPV. PPV allowed a small handful to make crazy money while everybody else starved. haymon's model will eventually end the days of guys making tens of millions in one night, but will allow for hundreds of fighters to make a great living instead of just a chosen few.




            no, his investors are being sued by their investors. haymon is in the clear.

            and it's a shame the state his company is in? he has more control of US boxing than ever and more world champions than ever. meanwhile, TR & GB have less control than ever. seems haymon's plan is working quite nicely.




            wrong. thurman/garcia on CBS, deontay wilder defending WBC world heavyweight championship on FOX. not to mention several shows on basic cable and an NBC date later in the year as well.

            and that is one of the biggest problems with Haymons model. He has a fiduciary duty to EACH fighter he represents. Should he not facilitate someone making "10s of millions per fight" because it conflicts with his Marxist overall vision?

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              #106
              Originally posted by OnePunch
              and that is one of the biggest problems with Haymons model. He has a fiduciary duty to EACH fighter he represents. Should he not facilitate someone making "10s of millions per fight" because it conflicts with his Marxist overall vision?
              It'd be much healthier for the industry fighters if the money was spread out amongst many rather than 1 guy. Any moron with half a brain can see that... except you? LOL

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              • OnePunch
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                #107
                Originally posted by snoopymiller
                It'd be much healthier for the industry fighters if the money was spread out amongst many rather than 1 guy. Any moron with half a brain can see that... except you? LOL
                perhaps you should google "fiduciary duty" because its sadly obvious you havent the slightest idea what it means.

                there's an old saying you should practice about remaining silent and being thought a fool instead of opening your mouth and making it official

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                • snoopymiller
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by OnePunch
                  perhaps you should google "fiduciary duty" because its sadly obvious you havent the slightest idea what it means.

                  there's an old saying you should practice about remaining silent and being thought a fool instead of opening your mouth and making it official
                  Wait... aren't you the gut praising the new GBP-ESPN deal were fighters will make less than $10 per fight?

                  You're pathetic.

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                  • OnePunch
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by snoopymiller
                    Wait... aren't you the gut praising the new GBP-ESPN deal were fighters will make less than $10 per fight?

                    You're pathetic.
                    sorry to bust your bubble, but I never "praise" time-buy deals, because without network oversight the quality usually suffers in the end. Look at 95% of the PBC shows as an example.

                    That being said, a 65k budget is more than ample for development-type shows. Its more than ESPN2 used to pay, is more than Telemundo pays, and is right on par with what ShoBox pays. So unless you think all 3 of those platforms are a waste of time, you should confine yourself to posting about things you know about, which would probably be nothing.....
                    Last edited by OnePunch; 01-28-2017, 11:11 AM.

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                    • snoopymiller
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by OnePunch
                      sorry to bust your bubble, but I never "praise" time-buy deals, because without network oversight the quality usually suffers in the end. Look at 95% of the PBC shows as an example.

                      That being said, a 65k budget is more than ample for development-type shows. Its more than ESPN2 used to pay, is more than Telemundo pays, and is right on par with what ShoBox pays. So unless you think all 3 of those platforms are a waste of time, you should confine yourself to posting about things you know about, which would probably be nothing.....
                      The ESPN-GBP deal is a time buy nitwit.

                      And yes... all those shows are pretty useless and shidday. Like I said... you are pathetic.

                      Crying about a guy who will grow the market and spread the money around yet praising dumpy shows were fighters get paid minimum wage. Smh

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