Comments Thread For: Judge Rules Against Golden Boy in Its Lawsuit Against Al Haymon

[aboutfkntime]

I assume GBP will appeal because it seems pretty obvious Haymon is not abiding by the Ali Act or potentially even anti-trust provisions. What he and Schaefer did to Oscar just does not seem ethical or legal to me, and of course those two things are usually supposed to line up, but in both or even either case, I don't think what they did was ethical or legal, and an appeals judge could see that. Maybe GBP just needs better lawyers or something because their case would seem to be very strong, so not sure why it got thrown out?

what do you want more...... ?

1) Pacquiao/Mayweather rematch
2) Pacquiao/Marquez rematch
3) Haymon/Hoya rematch

[original zero]

Look at the end of the day. PBC and Golden Boy Promotions are needed for boxing to get back to mainstream.

GB has two big fights a year and puts them on PPV. PBC has 50 big fights a year and puts them on CBS, NBC, FOX, Showtime, FS1, Bounce, etc.

Why exactly is GB needed for boxing to get back into the mainstream? They have one fighter. When he's gone, GB becomes completely irrelevant.

[original zero]

I assume GBP will appeal because it seems pretty obvious Haymon is not abiding by the Ali Act or potentially even anti-trust provisions. What he and Schaefer did to Oscar just does not seem ethical or legal to me, and of course those two things are usually supposed to line up, but in both or even either case, I don't think what they did was ethical or legal, and an appeals judge could see that. Maybe GBP just needs better lawyers or something because their case would seem to be very strong, so not sure why it got thrown out?

Haymon is abiding by the Ali act and if you think he isn't, you must not understand the act. Your comments seem to indicate that you're basing your opinions on false information that flooded the internet thanks to a Golden Boy propaganda campaign that they coordinated with the press.

Schaefer did not do anything unethical or illegal, nor did Haymon. Whenever a fighter hired Haymon, Haymon advised the fighter that they should not sign a long term promotional agreement with anybody, which was great advice. Once his fighters were free agents, he offered them to GB on a fight by fight basis.

Had Schaefer said no, Haymon would have simply taken his fighters elsewhere. Schaefer did what was best for GB, which was to do what it took to keep Haymon's fighters.

[original zero]

Al Haymon vs Golden Boy, Top Rank, Roc Nation, K2, Main Events. In other words Showtime vs HBO, who will win?

Haymon will win. Haymon will win because Showtime is increasing their budget and HBO is decreasing their budget. Haymon will win because he gets almost the entire Showtime budget and the others have to split the shrinking HBO budget.

[original zero]

Considering al haymon completely squandered this once in a lifetime opportunity and frittered away 5/6 of the 500 million and also hasnt gotten any networks to bite on pbc with its low ratings its safe to assume pbc is on its last legs hanging by a thread while top rank has consistently put on the biggest and best fights for over 50 years. Top rank by itself is doing millions of times better than pbc is right now

Your information is inaccurate. You have no idea how much Haymon spent or how much is left. You only know Haymon's estimate of what the entity's value is, which is completely subjective and it was in Haymon's best interest to paint the bleakest picture possible to increase the chances of winning the GB lawsuit . . . and it worked.

Haymon has already gotten Spike, CBS and Showtime to bite. The big question will be if FOX bites. Considering PBC's FOX show last year did substantially better ratings that UFC's FOX show the same month, it's ludicrous to say PBC's ratings were low unless you're unfairly comparing to other genres.

Top Rank is forced to wait for a handful of dates a year from HBO. If you think TR is in a better position than Haymon, you're out of your mind.

[Nightfall]

exactly why top rank saved face. both lawsuits were garbage with jealousy. now De la holic will be begging to make the fights the he claims that he always wanted to make for the fans (TMT)

[LOCOMEX89]

GB has two big fights a year and puts them on PPV. PBC has 50 big fights a year and puts them on CBS, NBC, FOX, Showtime, FS1, Bounce, etc.

Why exactly is GB needed for boxing to get back into the mainstream? They have one fighter. When he's gone, GB becomes completely irrelevant.

Well one Golden Boy just got the ESPN deal. So let's see what happens with those fights.

They have way more than one fighter on their roster. Linares, Vargas, Jo Jo Diaz, David Lemieux, etc....are established fighters and champions. Not to mention the young talent that they have in house.

Golden Boy is needed because of the avenues that Oscar creates for boxing. Plain and simple he brings in business for the sport. Now did this past weeks issues hurt him yet again more hes but still if he gets himself together he's still a major force in the sport.

[Outwest Exp 355]

Yes. and way too smart for Oscar who chose Schaefer as his trusted friend and business partner.

Say what you want about Schaefer not signing fighters to long term contracts but at least he was promoting fights. He's been back for 5 minutes and he's already put on the Charlo vs Williams card, and this weekends card with Frampton vs Santa Cruz.

[Bronx2245]

I wish I could've seen Jim Lampley's face when he read this! Priceless!

[jjsmyth87]

Haymon is abiding by the Ali act and if you think he isn't, you must not understand the act. Your comments seem to indicate that you're basing your opinions on false information that flooded the internet thanks to a Golden Boy propaganda campaign that they coordinated with the press.

Schaefer did not do anything unethical or illegal, nor did Haymon. Whenever a fighter hired Haymon, Haymon advised the fighter that they should not sign a long term promotional agreement with anybody, which was great advice. Once his fighters were free agents, he offered them to GB on a fight by fight basis.

Had Schaefer said no, Haymon would have simply taken his fighters elsewhere. Schaefer did what was best for GB, which was to do what it took to keep Haymon's fighters.

Yea lets just ignore the fact that shaefer had oscar under the impression that business was ok and meanwhile shaefer allowed his fighters to sign with haymon and not sign with golden boy. Meanwhile only a few top rank fighters ended up signing with haymon because they were actually looking out for the interest of the company unlike shaefer who is now promoting fights for haymon. What shaefer did was illegal which is why he had to pay golden boy millions and could not be involved in boxing for a period of time or did you forget all about that?